[b-hebrew] Hebrew in messages

Karl Randolph kwrandolph at email.com
Tue Jul 12 15:05:03 EDT 2005


Peter:

Thanks for the reference. I haven’t finished reading it yet. From what I read in the first pages, it appears that MIME standard is limited to US-ASCII only, no Hebrew possible.

I want to comment on the ibiblio archiving software: if a message is sent throughout the system, should it not be stored in the archives unchanged? If it changes the messaages, is it not a bug? Or is it in Redmondese “a feature” that the messages are not stored unchanged? Even messages sent from your mail program are changed by the ibiblio archiving program, is that what you wanted? Is that what you expected and planned for? Do you see why I call it a bug?

In particular, I noticed that character entities are not stored as character entities, they have been changed to and stored as html text strings. And Hebrew letters that you *think* are being sent as windows-1255 characters, are being changed to and stored as character entities. These are the changes I have been able to document from messages sent from your mail program, not the one I use. I think that is a bug. What other ways is the software changing messages?

What I expect now is that if I go back in the archives to one of your messages with some Hebrew in it, and quote it, that the Hebrew will come out as unintelligeable html text strings. Is that not a bug?

Karl W. Randolph.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Kirk" <peterkirk at qaya.org>

> 
> On 12/07/2005 15:55, Karl Randolph wrote:
> 
> > Peter:
> >
>...
> 
> > The ibiblio software does have a bug. It takes character entities 
> > and changes them, distorts them, into html text strings which no 
> > browser nor mail program can read as characters. ...
> >
> 
> No, it does not have a bug. As all messages on this list are plain 
> text, none of them contain HTML character enitities, but only plain 
> text strings which might be misinterpreted as character entities. 
> It therefore correctly transforms them into HTML strings which 
> display in the same way as the original plain text string.
> 
...
> 
> -- Peter Kirk
> peter at qaya.org (personal)
> peterkirk at qaya.org (work)
> http://www.qaya.org/



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