[b-hebrew] XSD

Karl Randolph kwrandolph at email.com
Thu Aug 25 17:29:21 EDT 2005


Peter:

Whoever put this list together, has made a lot of 
questionable calls. While I have not looked at every verse, 
close to half that I have spot checked do not say what he 
claims.

For example, Leviticus 9:22, the lifting up the hand and 
the blessing are listed separately, the lifting up the hand 
is not in and of itself giving the blessing.

In Jeremiah 6:1, what is it that is lifted up? Is it a 
portion of food as in Genesis 43:34, plume of smoke Judges 
20:38, 40, pack with basic living things Jeremiah 40:6, 
burden Job 31:23, or possibly even a war banner? The context 
isn't clear though it does rule out a portion of food. 
Basically its says lift up that which is to be lifted up.

Because Hebrew didn't have separate words for wife, to 
marry, husband, (at least none listed in Tanakh) those uses 
listed with marriage are simply an alternate way of saying 
them. They are idiomatic phrases only in relation to English.

Of those listed as to swear, for not one of them is it clear, 
and even a couple look as they would be more accurately 
translated as attacking, not swearing. But raising up one's 
hand for action comes through in those verses.

The raised hand and outstreached arm were common ways to 
indicate being at war, and that is continued in the verses 
below. To attack is part of being at war, so shouldn't be 
listed separately.

You are right, compound lexemes and idiomatic phrases are 
very close together, and sometimes hard to tell apart.

Karl W. Randolph.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Kirk" <peterkirk at qaya.org>

> 
> On 25/08/2005 17:50, Karl Randolph wrote:
> 
> > Peter:
> >
> > I think you are confusing idiomatic phrase with compound lexeme. ...
> >
> 
> To continue my response to this: Here is a list of idioms or 
> compound lexemes using NS', with references, taken from a database 
> I have. Some may be debatable, but others seem to me to be in the 
> category of compound lexemes. The Hebrew is omitted because in the 
> database it was in a non-standard encoding.
> 
> \dfe to take (a wife) = to marry
> ...
> 
> -- Peter Kirk
> peter at qaya.org (personal)
> peterkirk at qaya.org (work)
> http://www.qaya.org/
> 

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