[b-hebrew] Is.45:7 God created evil?

Read, James C K0434995 at kingston.ac.uk
Sat Aug 6 06:20:50 EDT 2005


Yes, I can see where you are coming from. 
First Yah asks Satan 'Where have you been?' (as if he didn't know) and then 
gets around to asking him Satan if he has set his heart on his servant Job (
again, as if he didn't already know).
This is the same style of questioning as we see in the garden of Eden. Yah 
already knows but questions as if he didn't 'Where are you?'. This repeated 
style is good grounds for supporting the same authorship of both scrolls and 
their antiquity.
Satan is depicted as a serpent in the garden of eden and no reference is given
to him by name because the story is told from man's point of view. This is 
important because, if man knew the message to be originating with an angel then
he would have been justified in eating the fruit as angels were Yah's representatives.
Similarly Satan is described as a person in heaven but on earth the temptation 
to curse Yah comes from the mouth of his wife. Again we see another parallel
with the Genesis account. Man is being tempted to reverse the chain of command 
and to obey his wife (his subordinate) rather than Yah (his superior). But this
time man is obedient to Yah and Yah succeeds in showing that man is capable of 
keeping his integrity and resisting the temptations of Satan.
Ezekiel is prophetic language talking about Satan, but admittedly this is only 
something that Yah's spirit can reveal to a man as there is no specific reference 
to Satan by name, and thus this proof goes out of the realms of linguistic analysis.

However, one thing is evident, the Christians firmly believed the serpent to be Satan
as Rev12:9 calls him 'the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan'.

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Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Is.45:7 God created evil?
 
On Friday 05 August 2005 15:20, Read, James C wrote:
> Yes Shoshanna. I agree with you here. There are many angels with
> different names and Satan's chief purpose is in tempting mankind.
> But the account of Job is not that Yah calls Satan and asks him
> to go and test Job.
> On the contrary, it is Satan who demands that Job be tested and
> challenges Yah by slanderously saying that Job only serves Yah
> because of the blessings that Yah has given him.
> Yah allows this to happen in order for the opportunity to be
> given that this is not the case but in no way requests of Satan
> that it be done.
[snip]

Actually, when God asks Satan "have you considered my servant Job?  Look how 
great he is. Makes your blood boil, doesn't it?????"  (my paraphrase, 
obviously) it almost appears that God is taunting Satan, daring him to make 
an accusation.  In both chapters, it is God, not Satan, who brings up the 
subject of Job.  What do you do with that?

-- 
Dave Washburn
http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur
"Well, if I'd wanted a safe life, I guess I wouldn't have 
married a man who studies rocks." - Betty Armstrong (Fay Masterson)
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