[b-hebrew] Is.45:7 God created evil?

Peter Kirk peterkirk at qaya.org
Fri Aug 5 12:02:09 EDT 2005

On 05/08/2005 14:30, Read, James C wrote:

> ...
> I disagree here. While, you can be conclusive that the subject is 
> different
> if the gender is different, you cannot be equally conclusive just 
> because the
> gender is the same.

Well, can you tell me any clear examples where the subject changes but 
is not signalled in any way - except by a theological inference from 
something which happens 11 verses later? Your translation is justified 
only by theology, not by what the text actually says.

> This is not the only case in scripture where the agent is ambiguous 
> and it is
> clear that the chronicler, whose hebrew was better than ours, did not 
> understand
> the agent to be Yah's anger but 'an adversary' or Satan himself.
> Your interpretation of the verse does not make sense.
> Yah got angry because David obeyed him?????

No, YHWH was angry and so told David to do this. I won't try to explain 
this because that is to bring in theology. But the theological problem 
arises only in v.12.

> The chronicler, evidently, was not led to understand such a thing and 
> so his
> version of events clears the ambiguity by making the agent of the 
> second clause
> explicit.

The Chronicler made multiple changes to this text, many theologically 
motivated - if 2 Samuel 24 was his source at all.

Peter Kirk
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