[b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant

Brian Roberts formoria at carolina.rr.com
Wed Aug 3 08:09:55 EDT 2005


Yes, I'm failing to see a precise mirroring of the biblical description 
here.

On Tuesday, August 2, 2005, at 06:52  PM, Dave Washburn wrote:

> Hmm, funniest looking cherubim I ever saw...
>
> On Tuesday 02 August 2005 16:22, Patrick J. Emsweller wrote:
>> Image of the Egyptian Ark.
>>
>> http://www.sacred-texts.com/egy/emec/img/03300.jpg
>>
>> -patrick
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: b-hebrew-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
>> [mailto:b-hebrew-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Segall
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 6:06 PM
>> To: Brian Roberts
>> Cc: b-hebrew
>> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant
>>
>> I have seen a picture of the image, but I do not have a copy. If anyone
>> knows where a copy is available I would like to know.
>>
>> On Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Brian Roberts wrote:
>>> Stephen;
>>>
>>> Can you provide us with an image of the Karnak inscription that you 
>>> say
>>> depicts the Ark of the Covenant?
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 2, 2005, at 03:21  PM, Stephen Segall wrote:
>>>> What happened to the Ark of the Covenant? After the death of King
>>>> Solomon his son Rehoboam became king. The 10 northern tribes revolted
>>>> against Rehoboam and formed their own separate kingdom. Rehoboam's
>>>> troops refused to fight against their fellow Israelites, so Rehoboam 
>>>> was
>>>> left with a small fraction of the population and a fraction of the 
>>>> land
>>>> of Solomon's original kingdom.
>>>>
>>>> This was a tempting target for the king of Egypt who attacked and
>>>> overran the truncated Kingdom of Judah. To prevent a siege of 
>>>> Jerusalem,
>>>> Rehoboam agreed to let the Egyptians loot Jerusalem and leave 
>>>> without a
>>>> fight.
>>
>> This
>>
>>>> Egyptian victory was commemorated on a temple wall at Karnak. The 
>>>> wall
>>>> carving shows Egyptian soldiers carrying away the Ark of the 
>>>> Covenant.
>>>>
>>>> While some may argue that just because the ark being taken away by 
>>>> the
>>>> Egyptians exactly matches the Ark described in the Torah, it might 
>>>> just
>>
>> be
>>
>>>> a chest with carrying rails. This is highly unlikely, since the
>>>> magnitude of the Egyptian victory could best be demonstrated by 
>>>> showing
>>>> that they were carrying off the Judeans most prize possession. It is
>>>> like saying that the menorah being carried away by Roman soldiers on 
>>>> the
>>>> arch of
>>
>> Titus
>>
>>>> could have been any menorah and not the one from the Second Temple.
>>>>
>>>> Rehoboam and the Temple priests tried to hide the loss of the Ark 
>>>> from
>>
>> the
>>
>>>> population, since admitting the Egyptians had taken the Ark was
>>
>> tantamount
>>
>>>> to admitting that God had abandoned the Kingdom of Judah. The secret
>>
>> could
>>
>>>> be kept for generations since only the Hign Priest was allowed to 
>>>> enter
>>>> the Holy of Holies in the Temple.
>>>>
>>>> The phrase in the Book of Kings about Josiah ordering the Levites to
>>>> return the Ark of the Covenant to the Temple appears to be an
>>>> embellishment to the story of the Passover celebration ordered by
>>>> Josiah, since no action was taken to execute this command.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Alexander Oldernes wrote:
>>>>> Maybe your expertise can help me with this question...
>>>>>
>>>>> I have read somewhere that when the curtain covering the entrance to
>>>>> the Most Holy was torn in two, in the first century CE, the Most 
>>>>> Holy
>>>>> was exposed containing no Ark of the Covenant. In place of the Ark 
>>>>> was
>>>>> a
>>
>> stone
>>
>>>>> slab upon which the high priest sprinkled the blood on the Day of
>>>>> Atonement.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know the last mention of the Ark of the Covenant is in 2. 
>>>>> Chronicles
>>>>> 35:5,
>>>>> saying:
>>>>> He said to the Levites, who instructed all Israel and who had been
>>>>> consecrated to YHWH: "Put the sacred ark in the temple that Solomon 
>>>>> son
>>
>> of
>>
>>>>> David king of Israel built. It is not to be carried about on your
>>>>> shoulders."
>>>>>
>>>>> This happened around 642 (?) BCE.
>>>>>
>>>>> And now the question...
>>>>> Do we know that the Ark of the Covenant was replaced by a stone 
>>>>> slab?
>>>>>
>>>>> If so...
>>>>> Who writes about it?
>>>>> Do we know when this was done?
>>>>> Do we know what the stone slab looked like?
>>>>>
>>>>> ----
>>>>>
>>>>> Alexander Oldernes
>>>>>
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Best Salaams,

R. Brian Roberts
Amateur Researcher in Biblical Archaeology
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