[b-hebrew] Could This Be Nimrod

Read, James C K0434995 at kingston.ac.uk
Tue Aug 2 17:15:57 EDT 2005

Do you have any resources I can refer to about the Chinese characters you mentioned?
I would really like to be able to study them in depth.

I don't think that the Japanese came from the lost tribes of Isreal. Legend says they 
came from a Chinese nautical mission where the group were sent out to find a paradise 
island the Chinese Emporer had heard about. They were not to come back unsuccessful 
under pain of death.

When I mentioned the similarities with Semitic roots I was more thinking of a family 
which migrated from the ANE to China and then a group that settles in Japan. 
That the Japanese and the Chinese are related is undoubted. 

-----Original Message-----
From: b-hebrew-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org on behalf of Karl Randolph
Sent: Tue 8/2/2005 9:16 PM
To: b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Could This Be Nimrod
Don't take too much importance on the shape of Chinese 
characters. The modern square characters resemble the 
original forms about as much as the modern square Hebrew 
letters resemble the forms found on the Gezar Calendar. 
However, in both cases, we have intermediate forms that 
show us how they changed.

Having said that, even in modern characters, the character 
for "create" has a stroke meaning life or living, attached 
to the form meaning dirt, over a mouth (shorthand for 
person) enclosed in walking, translation: living dirt is 
a walking (adult) person. The character for "ship" is an 
eight person vessel (Noah's ark had eight persons). The 
character for "devil" is a living thing in the cultivated 
garden moving around secretly. In fact, much of the first 
eleven chapters of Genesis can be found in the stories told 
by how the characters are constructed. These characters all 
predate Christian missionaries. If one looks at the earlier 
character forms, more parallels to Genesis can be 

As for the Japanese, I have seen indications from other 
sources saying that the Japanese connection to the Middle 
East was from about the Roman period, not the "lost tribes". 
Jews that got to Japan could have been from either of the 
two major Jewish revolts, either as Roman slaves or 
refugees. There are Chinese with family traditions claiming 
Jewish ancestry from about the Roman period and later.

Karl W. Randolph.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Read, James C" <K0434995 at kingston.ac.uk>
> The following link provides a history of the Chinese:
> http://www.threekingdoms.com/history.htm#2_3_1
> It states that:
>   All accounts, however, agree that the basin of the Yellow River 
> was the cradle of the Chinese culture, and that their ancestors 
> were a nomadic people who, some five or six thousand years ago, 
> migrated from the north-western part of Asia and finally settled in 
> the northern-central part of what is now China.
> This could well have been a migrating family descendent of one of 
> Noah's three children.
> It goes on to speak of a legend:
> 2. Mythological Era
> (BC 5000-2200)
> 2.1. Age of the Three Divine Rulers
> Given the first rank among the chieftains is Fuxi, or "Conqueror of 
> Animals." He taught his subjects how to catch animals and fish with 
> nets and to rear domestic animals for food. He is also the 
> originator of the writing system which, with their improvements and 
> modifications of ages, has been handed down to us in the form of 
> the modern Chinese characters.
> Could this be Nimrod? Nimrod the great hunter in opposition to 
> Yahoweh? The strokes of Chinese writings seem
> to have a lot in common with the strokes we see in cuneiform 
> tablets and this could explain why so many Japanese words seem to 
> come from semitic roots.
> Any thoughts?

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