[b-hebrew] Psa 107:19-21 (was WAYYIQTOL)

furuli at online.no furuli at online.no
Sat Mar 13 13:07:33 EST 2004

Dear Dave,

I have a list of several hundred examples of WAYYIQTOLs whose actions 
occur simultaneously, even many examples where two WAYYIQTOLs have 
the same subject.  So it is true that the WAYYIQTOL advances R-time 
in the majority (more than half) of the cases, but this is no 
*semantic* characteristic of the form.

Best regards


Rolf Furuli
University of Oslo

>On Saturday 13 March 2004 06:24, B. M. Rocine wrote:
>>  For years now--can you believe how time flies?-- this has been a difficult
>>  feature of your model for me to swallow: that a wayyiqtol that you alledge
>>  to be imperfective is used most often in a context that features the
>>  advance of time.  In my understanding of aspect, the advance of time would
>>  favor, if not require, a perfective form.  But I may be understanding you.
>>  Let me see if I can explain, in your view, how an imperfective form can be
>>  used in a passage where story time advances.
>>  Wayyiqtol refers to a situation that obtains (essentially saying that it
>>  begins) but the verb form doesn't by itself indicate anything about the
>>  situation's completion.  The verb form leaves, in and of itself, the
>>  situation open on the anterior end, because it is imperfective.  Then, in a
>>  text, along comes the next wayyiqtol, a new beginning.  A new beginning
>>  usually (but not necessarily) *implies* the ending of the previous
>>  situation.  IOW, one situation is now usually *inferred* to be complete
>>  simply because a new one has obtained or begun.
>>  This view of wayyiqtol seems rather like that of S.R. Driver, no?
>It actually sounds to me more like Galia Hatav's view that wayyiqtol advances
>Dave Washburn
>Learning about Christianity from a non-Christian
>is like getting a kiss over the telephone.

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