[b-hebrew] Torah and Sheol - a response
dwashbur at nyx.net
Tue Jun 22 14:29:50 EDT 2004
I would add that the abstract/concrete-mindset idea seems to be a bit
outdated, or at least the lines are more blurred than they were a century
ago. I would also quibble just a bit with the idea that most nouns are
"derived" from verbs; it seems rather to be the case that both a noun and a
verb may be "derived" (if that's the applicable word) from a common root-set,
e.g. DBR can be either a noun or a verb depending on what the speaker/writer
wanted to say/write. I don't think it's really the case that DFBFR is
derived from DIB."R, but rather they both project from a common entry in the
mental lexicon and are surface realized with the appropriate pronunciation
according to what the speaker intended.
Is that obfuscatory enough?????
On Tuesday 22 June 2004 12:08, Tony Costa wrote:
> Chris, all grammarians understand "Torah" and "Sheol" as feminine nouns. I
> would encourage you to consult the classical Hebrew-English Lexicon by
> Brown, Driver and Briggs on these two words and their derivations.
> Tony Costa
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> Subject: [b-hebrew] Torah and Sheol - a response
> > Dear learned members,
> > Hallo, Thanks for the responses on this however I really feel I need to
> > address the points being made that these are nouns. In ENGLISH they are
> > nouns I agree but not in hebrew. I understand that hebrew is very much a
> > concrete language (as opposed to abstract), and that very few nouns are
> > nouns by western understanding. The majority of nouns are actually
> > from verbs, I personally find this indicative of a subtle but important
> > manner of perceiving the world around them.
> > Hence and therefore, did I ask if these 2 "nouns" were actually a
> > and infinite construct direct from the root verb rather than simply
> > saying that they were nouns. After all 'shepherd' is a noun to us but it
> > was a verbal thought to the hebraic mindset. (just to use a common
> > example).
> > If some of you believe that I am travelling down a wrong road here then
> > please explain.
> > Thanks Chris.
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