[b-hebrew] Offend/dealt corruptly - chet bet lamed (nehemiah 1:7)

Reinier de Blois r.de.blois at solcon.nl
Mon Jun 21 03:35:17 EDT 2004

Dear Karl,

I looked at your definitions of x-b-l but have to conclude that you have
forgotten a number of meanings there. There is nothing about
destruction, nothing about being in labor. If you have a look at the
SDBH website you will see the way I have done it, taking into
consideration all scripture references where x-b-l is found.

Best wishes,


> -----Original Message-----
> From: b-hebrew-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org 
> [mailto:b-hebrew-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Karl Randolph
> Sent: maandag 21 juni 2004 4:08
> To: Hebrew
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Offend/dealt corruptly - chet bet 
> lamed (nehemiah 1:7)
> Dear Chris:
> We discussed Nehemiah 1:7, and there XBL, in the context, 
> could mean "We are surely joined to you".
> Likewise in Job 34:31 "For God is not the one who says, I 
> lift up but I'm not bound." in other words, God is not a 
> fickle God, but what he starts, he completes.
> While Reinier de Blois and I disagree on certain meanings, 
> the discussion enriches all of us.
> The definition, as I understand it, is "XBL to tie in knots 
> hence to be bound up, to be bound (to) (either physically 
> with ropes, or mentally through moral suasion or contractual 
> obligation), to knot, to bind up (pack) into a bundle (to 
> carry away), to bind (take as) collateral, to make twisted as 
> a knot, to contract (knot up) muscles, to bind up in the 
> sense of restrictions."
> Karl W. Randolph.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "wattswestmaas" <wattswestmaas at eircom.net>
> > Dear all,
> > 
> > I was wondering how this root can have the connotation of "dealt 
> > corruptly with"  and/or "offended" as used in Nehemiah 1:7 and Job 
> > 34:31 ?  I have, naturally, in mind the fact that this root is so 
> > translated no where else (as far as my searches can 
> reveal),  bearing 
> > in mind also that the root is tied (no pun intended) to the idea of 
> > 'twisting" ropes and "child birth" (twisting of the cord??) 
> The other 
> > common way the root is applied from what I can gather is 
> "the pledge" 
> > in the sense of being obligated (Tied to someone else??).
> > 
> > I would be extremely grateful for your thoughts on this.
> > 
> > Thankyou.  Chris.
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