[b-hebrew] Eden

Karl Randolph kwrandolph at email.com
Sat Jun 12 15:28:43 EDT 2004

The problem of locating Eden is the extent of the flood under Noah. If 
it was world wide, as the text says, then, according to experts in 
hydrology, it would have completely rearranged the surface of the 
earth, effectively destroying the original Eden. The present names were 
given by Noah and his sons to the rivers they found after exiting the 
ark. As such, the names point not so much to the original Garden of 
Eden, but to the location where the ark rested at the end of the flood. 
Not everybody believes the text. 
Karl W. Randolph. 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk at qaya.org> 
> On 09/06/2004 21:34, david.kimbrough at charter.net wrote: 
> >Eden for Fun 
> > 
> >... 
> > 
> >In Genesis 2, (dn is placed at the head of four rivers, the  
> >Euphrates [ prt ], the Gihon [ gyxwn ], the Pison [ py#n ],  
> >and the Hiddekel [xdkl ], probably the Tigris.  Both the  
> >Tigris and Euphrates have the head waters in the same  
> >region of southern (Kurdish) Turkey.  There are of course  
> >other rivers in this region (e.g. Zab, Diyala, or Khabur).   
> >The writer (the DH folks would say this is ?J?) seems to be  
> >thinking again of northern Mesopotamia or the highland  
> >around it. 
> > 
> >Question; could there be some connectio between Gihon  
> >[gyxwn] and Gozan [gwzn]? 
> >   
> > 
> Gihon corresponds to Arabic Jeyhun, which is apparently (among other  
> things) an old name (but still found on some 19th century maps) for 
> river Araz or Araxes, which now forms the north-west frontier of Iran  
> and flows very close to Ararat. 
> >... 
> > 
> >So it would seem that there is some idea in the OT that  
> >Eden was to the north and west of Mesopotamia. 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> Agreed. Among others, David Rohl has looked into this idea in his 
> "Legend". 
> --  
> Peter Kirk 
> peter at qaya.org (personal) 
> peterkirk at qaya.org (work) 
> http://www.qaya.org/ 
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