[b-hebrew] Baal's pillar & ASherah's pillar (Egyptian Origins ?)

Dora Smith villandra at austin.rr.com
Tue Jul 13 12:06:12 EDT 2004

It would be hard to argue that those pillars have such specific origins.

Pillars were a standard fertility symbol throughout the Near East and
Europe, and the gods whose shrines included pillars in Palestine were
fertility gods.

Pictures I have of Israel's oldest standing stone pillars in BAR actually
show something far more primitive than anything that existed in Egypt in the
time they were made.   LOL - Egyptian pillars would have been carefully and
precisely geometrically designed adn cut to scale - or constructed from

But then I think Israel had some taboo against cutting stones - COL!
(Choke a little)  (THe very idea that they borrowed from Egypt...)

Walter, you know that Egypt occupied Palestine for hundreds of years, just
prior to the time of the Judges, right?   That Egyptian ideas (and houses,
pottery, burial styles) should appear in Palestine does not require teh
Exodus story!

Don't forget that these ideas had been trading back and forth throughout the
region for millenia by the time we know of them.   Donald Redford, I think,
discusses the extensive religious ideas that Egyptians got from the Near

It's like trying to figure out where the notion of covenanting with a god of
justice who gives life to his chosen people came from.    Tee, hee, hee -
Indo Aryans, Hurrians, or Semites?    Given that these peoples, who had
lived in close proximity for millenia, had a proven record of interchange of
technology and vocabulary at the point where history picks them up.
Indo-Europeans actually governed themselves in the style of ancient Sumer,
and their religious ideas began life in the Near East.   And if these ideas
moved just one way off of the steppes, how did Siberians end up with the
Tree of Life?

Now I suspect such logical reasoning got me plum thrown off the ANE list -
or do you suppose it was all the y'all's?    LOL!    It drives those
intellectuals livid!

Dora Smith
Austin, Texas
villandra at austin.rr.com

Dora Smith
Austin, Texas
villandra at austin.rr.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter R. Mattfeld" <mattfeld12 at charter.net>
To: <b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 6:00 PM
Subject: [b-hebrew] Baal's pillar & ASherah's pillar (Egyptian Origins ?)

> The below url takes one to an article arguing that Baal's pillar and
> Asherah's pillar may be in origin Egyptian pillar-gods who were
> to Phoenician and Canaanite gods in the course of the Late Bronze Age when
> Egypt ruled the area for some 400 years. It will be argued that Baal's
> pillar is derived from Osiris' Djet/Tet pillar, while Asherah's pillar is
> derived from Hathor's pillar.
> http://www.bibleorigins.net/AsherahAsherim.html
> Regards, Walter
> Walter Reinhold Warttig Mattfeld y de la Torre, M.A. Ed.
> mattfeld12 at charter.net
> www.bibleorigins.net
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