[b-hebrew] Spatial preposition ADei (Ayin Dalet Yod)

B. M. Rocine brocine at twcny.rr.com
Sun Jul 4 18:47:56 EDT 2004

Hi Chris,

Don't worry about your difficulty.  I think you are asking about some tricky

you wrote:

> Subject:  Ayin dalet with suffixes
> Hallo members,  I am having difficulty grasping that preposition, which is
> only used about 25 times in the whole of scripture, ADei, ADeiCHa and so

I wouldn't think of (AD"Y as a different word than the preposition (aD; I
would think of them as only two forms of the same word.  (AD"Y, probably the
older of the two, becomes, in practice, the construct form of the other.  In
other words the rule generalizes as follows: (aD when there is no suffix
attached and (AD"Y when a suffix is attached.  If you consider (AD"Y as one
and the same as (aD it is used a good deal more than twenty-five times.  As
for the preposition (AD"Y without a suffix attached, I think you will find
them more commonly in poetic contexts where the writers may be trying to
sound "old-fashioned," but I haven't researched this idea exhaustively.

> It is defined as a preposition that indicates the GOAL of a process. Right
> thanks?!  Having read and re-read the scriptures where it is used I am
> the wiser in understanding it, except maybe that the subject is often both
> the Process and the Goal.

We usually talk about the object of a preposition , not the subject.  The
preposition relates something to the object of the preposition.  The
preposition (aD indicates "towards."  In spacial situations it would suggest
"movement towards."  In temporal situations it would indicate "until."  In
abstract situations it would indicate "until" or "as much as" as in "until
the goal is achieved" or "as much as half the kingdom."

 The only other concept that i can deduce from its
> use is that the process that is referred to is in its OWN NATURAL motion
> the end is of course one of perpetuality.
> Certainly one is missing something by translating this prepositional form
> 'forever'.

There is also a noun (aD which means something like "perpetutity."  I think
it is usually used in a phrase with (oLfM.  (aD may be related to the
preposition.  I think of them as related myself in the sense that perpetuity
is "until..."  In other words, perpetuity has a blank for the "object."  In
other words again,  "until whatever."  The construct form of this noun may
be (AD"Y, though I haven't checked into it.

Hoping to help, Bryan

B. M. Rocine
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