[b-hebrew] Aegean Ethnic determinatives on Philistine guards of Judean kings in Kings and Samuel?
peterkirk at qaya.org
Sat Jan 24 19:31:48 EST 2004
On 25/01/2004 04:07, Dora Smith wrote:
>In his pretty much excellent but not perfect work, "Egypt, Canaan, and
>Israel" in Ancient Times", Donald Redford says, "Interestingly, both
>"Carians" and "Cretans" appear as ethnic indicators in the lists of
>bodyguards of Judaean kings recruited from Philistia." In the footnote he
>cites only, "2 Sam. 20:23; 2 Kings 11:4, 19" for his source on that
>The entire sentence makes no sense whatever to me. Does it make sense to
I think all he means is that in those verses in 2 Kings we find the word
KARIY "Carite" or "Carian"; in 2 Samuel 20:23 the word may be KARIY
"Carian" (Ketiv) or K:RETIY "Kerethite" or perhaps "Cretan" (Qere). The
latter word is found undisputed in about ten places. The references are
all to the royal bodyguard of Judah.
>I know that Egyptian part phonetic, part syllabic hieroglyphic writing has
>"determinatives" after many proper nouns to indicate things abouat that
>noun, such as whether it is a person's name, a place or a people, or a god.
>I am not aware of Hebrew having any such feature. My Hebrew bible is
>straight Hebrew characters.
>Waht is he talking about - and if "determinatives" are there, what do they
>really say and mean?
There are no special determinatives, just words or names apparently
indicating the ethnic or geographical origin of these people.
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