[b-hebrew] Potiphar's title

Michael Banyai Banyai at t-online.de
Thu Jul 10 16:58:08 EDT 2003

Dear Peter,

Akkadian is a large word. Since not even the worst adepts of a maximalist view would sustain the idea, that biblical hebrew antedated the Akkadian, the fact whether saris is or not an Akkadian loan-word uninteresting to pinpoint the bible on the 7th century.

Should you try to become more specific, and say saris is a word existing only in the neo-Assyrian begining by the 7th century, than of course its loan ought postdate this evolution within the "Akkadian".

Othwerwise we should state frankly, there is no subject for this thread.

About Akkadian we speak beginning by the empire of Sargon of Akkade. At which time point did it penetrate into the Hewbrew lexic? Can you make a concrete statement about this time point?

Second, Walter´s was that the loanword itself would mark the date of creation of the work, what I doubt. How can you demonstrate the redactional evolution of the work in your sense?

All the best,

Bányai Michael

> >
> Stephen, you have a point. The full technical arguments for this being a 
> loan word have not been presented in this thread. But they have been 
> studied by many competent scholars for at least 100 years (as quoted in 
> BDB), and it certainly seems to be the scholarly consensus, as repeated 
> in Kohler and Baumgartner, that this particular word is a loan word into 
> Hebrew from Akkadian. In a case like this, if you wish to challenge the 
> accepted results, it is not enough to say "not proven", serious 
> arguments are required.

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