Karl Randolph kwrandolph at email.com
Wed Jul 2 01:51:26 EDT 2003

Thanks, Pere:

Actually it seems to make more sense to have )WL to mean “advance” than “body”. Asaph was complaining that the wicked were doing well “
and are well fed in their advance.” i.e. as they procede, they have plenty.

As for 2 Kings 24:15, the context of verse 16 seems to indicate that these were not just the nobles, but also those who were advanced, i.e. with special skills, to leave behind those with run of the mill training, including many nobles. I know most translations follow the Qere instead of the Ketib, but if we take the root meaning you mentioned, does it not make more sense to hang onto the Ketib instead of inserting the Qere?

Thanks again, Karl W. Randolph.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pere Porta Roca" <pporta at tinet.fut.es>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph at email.com>
> > Now another word, )WL (ul) found in Psalm 73:4, possibly also in 2 Kings
> 24:15, does it have references to power, strength or might, whereas the
> dictionary meaning I have seen indicates simply "body"?
> Either )WL of Psalm 73:4 or )WL of 2K 24:15 come from the same root  )WL. My
> dictionary says its basic meaning is 'be in front of', 'precede', 'lead'.
> Now, the word in Ps 73:4 has taken the sense of 'front', 'prominent part'
> whereas the word in 2K has taken the cognate sense of 'leading man' or
> 'noble'. [And we must be careful: )WLY in 2K is Kt but not Qr. Strictly
> speaking the word in 2K is )YLY (eyly ha'arets) ('els notables del país',
> says my Catalan bible), the same word we find, beside others, in Ex 15:15]
> That's what I think about your question.
> Pere
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