Iron and Bronze. The tribe of Dan (Shoshanna)

Bryan Rocine brocine at
Sun Sep 15 16:06:42 EDT 2002

Dear Shoshanna,

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I was reading Rashi on Gen 49:16, and he presents two
alternate views on the interpretation of _ke'axad shibtey
yisra'el_ .  In the first he proposes a slight change to the
pointing of _ke'axad_ to _khe'exad_
(khaph-shewa-aleph-segol-khet-patakh-dalet). He says it
means all the tribes will be one with Dan, and Dan will
avenge them.

In the second interpretation, he leaves the pointing as it
is, explaining that Dan will become like a "distiguished
one" from the tribes (_kimyuxad shebashbatim_), namely

Linguistically, I find both interpretations unlikely because
neither is an attested understanding of the language
construction.  <_ke'axad_ + a plural noun> means the object
is or will be *like* that named by the plural noun.  I am
not saying Rashi's understanding of the verses cannot be
correct.  I am saying that the language does not
well-support his conclusions.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shoshanna Walker" <rosewalk at>
To: "Biblical Hebrew" <b-hebrew at>
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: Iron and Bronze. The tribe of Dan

> I was "asked" by the owners of this list, not to.
> shoshanna
> If you can share views from Talmud or rabbinical
commentaries, about Dan,
> and the numbering and names of the tribes, I am sure the
forum would
> appreciate..
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