Psalm 2:12 and Proverbs 31 ben/bar

Lisbeth S. Fried lizfried at umich.edu
Fri Mar 22 12:28:03 EST 2002


Dahood gives Prov. 14:1 Hakmot na$im, the wisest of men,
and UT 2 Aqht: 6:45 (mq n$m, the strongest/wisest of men
as examples.
Liz Fried
 

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> Subject: Re: Psalm 2:12 and Proverbs 31 ben/bar
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> As Milton Himmelfarb pointed out at the time (in his review of Dahood in 
> Commentary--February 1968) neshe qever would be "women of the 
> grave."  TO have 
> a parallel with ishe mavet or bene mavet, one would need anshe mavet.  
> Himmelfarb notes Dahood's invocation of Ugaritic but points out 
> that he gives 
> but one Ugaritic example in which neshe is anything else but 
> women.  Dahood, in 
> his subsequent reply to Himmelfarb talks about this example but 
> says nothing on 
> the neshe/anshe question.
> 
>                                                   Steve Oren
>                                                   Chicago IL 
> 
> Quoting Polycarp66 at aol.com:
> 
> > In a message dated 3/21/2002 11:55:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
> > lizfried at umich.edu writes:
> > 
> > Mitchell Dahood, a Catholic priest, 
> > translates it "Serve YHWH with reverence and
> > live in trembling, O mortal men!"
> > He reads O mortal men with no consonental
> > changes: ne$e qaber, men of the grave,
> > or men appointed for the grave.
> > He compares i$ mawet (I kings 2:26)
> > bene mawet (1 Sam 26:16).
> > _______________
> > 
> > Now that makes sense.  The RSV and NRSV translate "kiss his 
> feet", but that
> > 
> > requires emending the text from BR to RGLYW.  Maintaining the 
> consonantal 
> > text is always preferable.  In the oldest manuscripts the 
> letters were not 
> > always separated (in fact, as I recall, they usually weren't).  
> Liz, could 
> > you cite some more of Dahood's translation for context?  I'm 
> afraid I left 
> > most of my books in storage.
> > 
> > GfSomsel
> > 
> > 
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