Psalm 2:12 and Proverbs 31 ben/bar
Lisbeth S. Fried
lizfried at umich.edu
Fri Mar 22 12:28:03 EST 2002
Dahood gives Prov. 14:1 Hakmot na$im, the wisest of men,
and UT 2 Aqht: 6:45 (mq n$m, the strongest/wisest of men
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> From: soren at enteract.com [mailto:soren at enteract.com]
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> Subject: Re: Psalm 2:12 and Proverbs 31 ben/bar
> As Milton Himmelfarb pointed out at the time (in his review of Dahood in
> Commentary--February 1968) neshe qever would be "women of the
> grave." TO have
> a parallel with ishe mavet or bene mavet, one would need anshe mavet.
> Himmelfarb notes Dahood's invocation of Ugaritic but points out
> that he gives
> but one Ugaritic example in which neshe is anything else but
> women. Dahood, in
> his subsequent reply to Himmelfarb talks about this example but
> says nothing on
> the neshe/anshe question.
> Steve Oren
> Chicago IL
> Quoting Polycarp66 at aol.com:
> > In a message dated 3/21/2002 11:55:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > lizfried at umich.edu writes:
> > Mitchell Dahood, a Catholic priest,
> > translates it "Serve YHWH with reverence and
> > live in trembling, O mortal men!"
> > He reads O mortal men with no consonental
> > changes: ne$e qaber, men of the grave,
> > or men appointed for the grave.
> > He compares i$ mawet (I kings 2:26)
> > bene mawet (1 Sam 26:16).
> > _______________
> > Now that makes sense. The RSV and NRSV translate "kiss his
> feet", but that
> > requires emending the text from BR to RGLYW. Maintaining the
> > text is always preferable. In the oldest manuscripts the
> letters were not
> > always separated (in fact, as I recall, they usually weren't).
> Liz, could
> > you cite some more of Dahood's translation for context? I'm
> afraid I left
> > most of my books in storage.
> > GfSomsel
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