Psalm 2:12 and Proverbs 31 ben/bar

soren at soren at
Fri Mar 22 11:20:40 EST 2002

As Milton Himmelfarb pointed out at the time (in his review of Dahood in 
Commentary--February 1968) neshe qever would be "women of the grave."  TO have 
a parallel with ishe mavet or bene mavet, one would need anshe mavet.  
Himmelfarb notes Dahood's invocation of Ugaritic but points out that he gives 
but one Ugaritic example in which neshe is anything else but women.  Dahood, in 
his subsequent reply to Himmelfarb talks about this example but says nothing on 
the neshe/anshe question.

                                                  Steve Oren
                                                  Chicago IL 

Quoting Polycarp66 at

> In a message dated 3/21/2002 11:55:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
> lizfried at writes:
> Mitchell Dahood, a Catholic priest, 
> translates it "Serve YHWH with reverence and
> live in trembling, O mortal men!"
> He reads O mortal men with no consonental
> changes: ne$e qaber, men of the grave,
> or men appointed for the grave.
> He compares i$ mawet (I kings 2:26)
> bene mawet (1 Sam 26:16).
> _______________
> Now that makes sense.  The RSV and NRSV translate "kiss his feet", but that
> requires emending the text from BR to RGLYW.  Maintaining the consonantal 
> text is always preferable.  In the oldest manuscripts the letters were not 
> always separated (in fact, as I recall, they usually weren't).  Liz, could 
> you cite some more of Dahood's translation for context?  I'm afraid I left 
> most of my books in storage.
> GfSomsel
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