J. W. Wesselius jwwesselius at mail.thuk.nl
Wed Mar 20 14:35:29 EST 2002

It  is probably lo'azim, m.pl. of the qal act.part. of the verb l'z
(lamed-ayin-zayin), "to speak a foreign (i.e. incomprehensible) language"
(compare Psalm 114:1, "a people of strange language" in the KJV). [gn] was a
conventional way of expressing the way in which the ayin was and is
pronounced in parts of the Jewish pronunciation tradition, some grammars say
that it is pronounced [gn] at the beginning and [ng] at the end of a
By the way, the sentence in the introduction is a pun on the meaning of
"barbarous", which underwent more or less the same development of meaning,
from "incomprehensible" to "foreign". Hope this helps,

Jan-Wim Wesselius
Theologische Universiteit Kampen
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e-mail jwwesselius at mail.thuk.nl

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin L. Barney <klbarney at yahoo.com>
To: Biblical Hebrew <b-hebrew at franklin.oit.unc.edu>
Date: woensdag 20 maart 2002 20:04
Subject: Lognazim

>A friend sent me the below question, and I have been unable to come up
>with a definitive answer.  My guess is that "Lognazim" is *lo gnazim*,
>meaning something like "not treasures," but that's just a guess.  Can
>anyone shed any light on the word Lognazim as it was used in the KJV
>[text of question follows]
>In the original introduction to the KJV, "The
>Translators to the Reader,"
>Miles Smith says: "The Jews long before Christ,
>called all other nations,
>Lognazim, which is little better than barbarous."
>My Hebrew is pretty minimal.  Can anyone here
>confirm Smith's statement?
>What is the Hebrew word that he's rendering
>Kevin L. Barney
>Hoffman Estates, Illinois
>klbarney at yahoo.com
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