Lisbeth S. Fried
lizfried at umich.edu
Mon Jan 28 18:37:21 EST 2002
Not all of Jeremiah was written by the Prophet himself.
I recommend any recent commentary on the book.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Smith [mailto:kens at 180solutions.com]
> Sent: Mon, January 28, 2002 6:27 PM
> To: Biblical Hebrew
> Subject: RE: Sacrifice.
> Not to dispute the results of the archaeological investigations you
> refer to, but how would you reconcile the account in Jeremiah 7:31 with
> what has been uncovered archaeologically? After all, Jeremiah 7 is
> presumably a highly contemporary account. (Unlike, say, the accounts of
> the conquest, which in their present form are pretty well acknowledged
> to be much later than the conquest itself.) Would Jeremiah have
> bothered to attack a practice that, well, wasn't practiced? I'm no
> fundie, and don't have any trouble acknowledging that the Bible and
> history as known from other sources don't always match -- but I would
> expect that an account from a contemporary, local eyewitness such as
> Jeremiah would have to be given considerable weight even by those who
> have nothing riding on Biblical inerrancy. Jeremiah was already
> unpopular enough around Jerusalem -- he wouldn't have bothered to make
> something like this up, would he?
> In other words, is it legitimate, in this instance, to question the
> archaeological results? Are there any blank spots in those
> investigations that could leave room for Jeremiah's accusations to be
> taken seriously? Is perhaps a judgment of non liquet the best we can do
> at the moment?
> Ken Smith
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lisbeth S. Fried [mailto:lizfried at umich.edu]
> > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 2:42 PM
> > To: Biblical Hebrew
> > Subject: RE: Sacrifice.
> > I would like to point out, before
> > we get carried away here that extensive
> > archaological investigation has been carried out
> > of the area of Ben Himnom, or Topheth, and there
> > is absolutely no evidence that child sacrifice,
> > or any sacrifice, ever occurred there.
> > It was a garbage dump, and garbage was burned there.
> > The things that you're liable to find in the bible,
> > ain't necessa.., ain't necessa.., ain't necessarily so.
> > Liz Fried (and G.G.)
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Eric Hill [mailto:bhebrew at hotmail.com]
> > > Sent: Mon, January 28, 2002 3:55 PM
> > > To: Biblical Hebrew
> > > Subject: Re: Sacrifice.
> > >
> > >
> > > I think it's important to note that in both Jeremiah 7 and 19, the
> > > very place where the Israelites were sacrificing their children to
> > > Molech, YHWH says He will slaughter the Israelite people
> > and bury them
> > > there (The Valley of Ben Hinnom or Topheth). In no way does
> > the God of
> > > Israel condone human sacrifices. In fact He makes a point to remind
> > > the Hebrew people that the reason He is bringing His wrath on other
> > > nations is because of offerings such as this to other gods. It does
> > > not take a Hebrew scholar to distinguish between what God
> > approves of
> > > and what He doesn't approve of. His character is consistent
> > throughout
> > > Scripture.
> > >
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