New Eden Article

Peter Kirk Peter_Kirk at
Tue Aug 21 17:22:56 EDT 2001

One more piece of data here: I have read that the Amu Darya or Oxus river,
one of the main rivers draining the Pamir region, is sometimes known as
Jeyhun, which is the Arabic version of Gihon. David Rohl, on the other hand,
found data to suggest that the Araz/Araxes was once called Jeyhun, and he
uses that to support his theory (put forward in his book "Legend") that Eden
was located on the site of modern Tabriz, Iran. But the variety of plausible
theories leads me to think that we will never be able to do more than guess
which is correct.

Peter Kirk

> -----Original Message-----

> From: kymsabq [mailto:kymsabq at]
> Sent: 20 August 2001 22:28
> To: Biblical Hebrew
> Subject: Re: New Eden Article
> Hello Walter,
> After reading your last post regarding the location of the garden of Eden
> and then this latest one I thought it good if I let you know about yet
> another place that many people believe to be the location of the garden of
> Eden.  In fact, many Asiatic people take this information for granted as
> true.
> It is interesting to read Sargon's Chronicle which, although authored in
> Mesopotamia, spoke of Eden as being in yet a different place.  The Pamir
> Plateau is considered by some to be the Garden of Eden and the Tarim Basin
> is the location of the flood of Noah's time that brought an end to the
> influx of the hybrid offspring of men and fallen angels, the giants.
> There was such a flood noted as taking place in the Tarim Basin in Chinese
> history (the Shu-King), in which an individual named Fu-hi built
> an ark and
> loaded it up with animals and went through exactly the same
> things that Noah
> did at exactly the same time frame, as the Chinese history places this
> deluge in the reign of Emporer Yaou.  In case you take a look at
> a map, the
> Tamir Basin is in Eastern Turkistan.  This also opens one's eyes
> a bit when
> you take into account that Cain was driven out and went to Nod, which was
> even more eastward of the Pamir Plateau and Tamir Basin area.  By the way,
> there are four rivers in this area and keep in mind that "Euphrates" comes
> from the word PERATH, which implies "a river of the east", so it
> just may be
> that people are looking for the wrong Euphrates. While you are looking at
> the map, note that the CUSH mountains are in this area and the Gihon flows
> there.  The Pison has been attributed to the Ganges for centuries.
> I hope that you find this information interesting and useful.  I have more
> on this topic if you are interested.
> kyms
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Walter Mattfeld" <mattfeld at>
> To: "Biblical Hebrew" <b-hebrew at>
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 9:51 AM
> Subject: New Eden Article
> > Available is a new article on Eden supplementing my earlier
> Eden article,
> > titled
> >
> > "The Garden of Eden not Aden in the Yemen, but Wadi
> Adhana/Dhana at Ma`rib
> > ?"
> >
> > In an earlier article on the Garden of Eden I argued that the
> port of Aden
> > in the Yemen preserved the name Eden. More recent research on
> my part has
> > caused me to realize I am in error to a degree. I now
> understand that the
> > "prototype" or "historical kernel" underlying the Garden of
> Eden story is
> > events occurring at the ancient capital of the Kingdom Sheba called
> Ma`rib.
> > The problem in identifying the port of Aden with Eden, is its geography.
> It
> > lies in a desolate area which only receives 3 inches of rain annually.
> There
> > is no garden here.  I  have come to realize that the Koran has
> preserved a
> > valuable clue to Eden's location, the 34th Sura mentions two gardens of
> Saba
> > (Sheba)...
> >
> >
> > Walter Reinhold Warttig Mattfeld
> > Walldorf by Heidelberg
> > Baden-Wurttemburg, Germany
> >
> >

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