Jer 15:6-9, Rolf
brocine at earthlink.net
Wed Sep 15 23:33:52 EDT 1999
> Dear list-members,
> In the mentioned verses I count 12 QATALs, 1 WEQATAL and
3 WAYYIQTOLs. I
> cannot find any clue in the context suggesting that the
events mantioned by
> the prophet is past; i.e. that reference time comes before
> However, I find many clues that they are future; i. e.
reference time comes
> after speech time. How would the particular model for
Hebrew verbs that you
> believe in, direct you in the translation of these verses?
In other words,
> how would you translate the verses?
I think Randall Buth's comments are very good. Alviero
Niccacci may be right, but let's assume the passage probably
refers to a future situation.
*Translation is indeed a problem*. With his dramatic choice
of forms, the prophet brings his audience "right there."
Where? The future. Past tense is inappropriate for the
translation maybe, but *so is future*, the reason being the
H forms used are not futures, and we lose the prophet's
rhetorical play if we translate them so. Because I *have*
to use an English tense in translation, I will use present,
but I will indicate a "real world future reference" for the
discourse in parentheses. Why use present? Because I think
it is most consistent with the prophet's attempt to bring us
"right to the future" and because I think the qatals are
particularly compatible with present because they represent
what the subject is/was. I'll just do a little sample.
6 You are a forsaker of Me, says YHVH, and you go backward,
so (you will see) I stretch forth My hand upon you, and I
destroy you. I am tired of regrets.
7 So (you will see) I scatter them...I am an aborter...I am
a destroyer...none are returners.
I don't blame the translators for not doing my goofy little
parentheses thing, so I guess I don't blame them for using
B. M. Rocine
Living Word Church
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Syracuse, NY 13206
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