The "times" of Isaiah

Chalomi Balaylah chalomi at hotmail.com
Wed Aug 25 15:17:59 EDT 1999


Thanks, that helps.

Chalomi


>From: Rolf Furuli <furuli at online.no>
>Reply-To: Rolf Furuli <furuli at online.no>
>To: Biblical Hebrew <b-hebrew at franklin.oit.unc.edu>
>Subject: Re: Re[3]: The "times" of Isaiah
>Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:43:10 +0200
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>Chalomi Balaylah wrote:
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> >Since I'm new to the list I'm arriving in the middle of several
> >conversations.  This might be a ridiculous question, but what is (MR and
> >what does RT before C mean?  I do have some idea that you're talking 
>about
> >verb tenses or lack of them expecially in relation to using the vayiQToL
> >which is supposed to signify the past, but sounds more like 'and + future
> >tense' to me.
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> >Elisa
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>Dear Elisha,
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>The terminology is linguistic, and the use of it helps us discuss the
>nature of a situation or event without using grammatical terms.  The letter
>"C" stands for a fixed point, from which the particular action or state is
>seen. It is in most cases the speech time.  An event or state has a
>beginning and end, and the time between these is called "ET" ("event
>time"). The letters "RT" stands for "reference time" and tells us whether
>the speaker/writer sees the event in the past present or future in relation
>to the present moment or some other time.
>
>Regarding Hebrew verbs, my view is that the system is tenseless and all
>forms can be used for past, present, and future, although particular forms
>tend to be used in different kinds of discourse because of linguistic
>convention. The opionion of Peter and Paul, with whom I often have been
>discussing Hebrew verbs, is more difficult to grasp (at least for me); they
>tend to avoid clearcut definitions of each verb form, because their method
>is principally based on discourse analysis.  In any case, they disagree
>both with my linguistic model and with  my conclusions.  The letters )MR
>stands for the Hebrew letters aleph, mem, and resh (the verb 'amar).
>There is a convention for transcribing the Hebrew letters, and perhaps it
>is time for those responsible for the list to repeat this convention
>
>
>Regards
>Rolf
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>Rolf Furuli
>University of Oslo
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