[B-Greek] Fwd: Learning Greek kills English...

Alexander Ring akring at mac.com
Tue Jul 27 18:56:25 EDT 2010


Sorry, meant to send this to the whole list.
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> What we are talking about here is translation and how it is an art more than science. I remember being in my NT Greek class and "translating" for my professor; rendering Greek into a word-by-word wooden English, mostly to show my professor I had done my homework and knew what all the words meant. I still hear these "translations" in exegetical papers at times. But at some point students need to be taught that to "translate" means to make the original author speak English, and sometimes that means going beyond literal meanings. The classic example of this is translating σπλάγχνα  as "heart" .
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> Thus it isn't the learning of Greek (or Latin) that kills English; it is trying to make the English speak Greek rather than vice versa.
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> Alex
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> On Jul 27, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Eric Ciampa wrote:
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>> There is scarcely any better training, rhetorical as well as logical, than the task of construing Thucydides intogenuine English; but the flat, vague, long-winded Greek-English and Latin-English imposture that is often tolerated in our examinations and is allowed to pass current for genuine English, diminishes instead of increasing the power that our pupils should possess over their native language. By getting marks at school and college for construing good Greek and Latin into bad English, our pupils systematically unlearn what they may have been allowed to pick up from Milton and from Shakespeare. 
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