[B-Greek] Fw: Re: Augment in participle (John 1:6)

Richard Ghilardi qodeshlayhvh at juno.com
Sun Jul 25 17:36:10 EDT 2010

Hello All,

Sorry. This was meant for the list. Mea culpa.

Yours in His grace,
Richard Ghilardi

---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: "Richard Ghilardi" <qodeshlayhvh at juno.com>
To: muzhogg at netspace.net.au
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Augment in participle (John 1:6)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 21:27:28 GMT

Hi Murray,

The &epsilon; E is not an augment. It's part of the perfect stem used in lieu of reduplication. The &omicron; O is elided. *&alpha;&pi;&omicron;&sigma;&tau;&epsilon;&sigma;&tau;&alpha;&lambda;&mu;έ&nu;&omicron;&sigmaf; *APOSTESTALMENOS looks ridiculous, don't you agree?

Yours in His grace,
Richard Ghilardi

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Murray Hogg <muzhogg at netspace.net.au>
To: B-Greek List <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: [B-Greek] Augment in participle (John 1:6)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 07:05:04 +1000

Dear B-Greekers,

I'm puzzled by the construction of the perfect participle of apostellw (ἀ&pi;&omicron;&sigma;&tau;έ&lambda;&lambda;&omega;) in John 1:6.

Here the word is rendered apestalmenos (ἀ&pi;&epsilon;&sigma;&tau;&alpha;&lambda;&mu;έ&nu;&omicron;&sigmaf;).

However, I understood that only the indicative takes the augment, so I would have expected apostalmenos (ἀ&pi;&omicron;&sigma;&tau;&alpha;&lambda;&mu;έ&nu;&omicron;&sigmaf;).

Clearly I'm missing something and I was hoping that somebody might be able to suggest what that might be.

Thanks and Regards,
Murray Hogg,
Melbourne, Aust.
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