[B-Greek] GRONT score website

George F Somsel gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Mon Dec 27 11:25:19 EST 2010

Precisely.  If a few are submitting all of the ratings, the ratings become 
little more than the opinion of those few which may be rather skewed to their 
knowledge of Greek.  For the score to achieve any true validity as a comparison 
to NT Greek some standard would need to be established comparing vocabulary 
frequency and also syntactical usage.  Otherwise all you have is a statement 
that **I** think it is comparable to NT Greek (or not).  What that person may be 
saying is that he is / is not able to read it with some ease which may in turn 
reflect the fact that he may have read Homer, Plato, Aristotle, Herodotus, 
Thucydides (or not have read them).

… search for truth, hear truth, 
learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth, 
defend the truth till death.

- Jan Hus

From: Carl Conrad <cwconrad2 at mac.com>
To: Mark Lightman <lightmanmark at yahoo.com>
Cc: b-Greek <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:57:25 AM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] GRONT score website

On Dec 27, 2010, at 10:16 AM, Mark Lightman wrote:

> One has to draw a distinction between statistical accuracy and statistical 
> precision.  GRONT scores are not particularly accurate, but they are very 
> precise, and as Mike says, are becoming even more so as the sample sizes 
> continue to increase.

The question I'd raise is how many persons' opinions are represented by
the figures given (I won't ask whose opinions they are!)

Carl W. Conrad

> ________________________________
> From: Mike Noel <mike at vnoel.com>
> To: b-Greek <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Mon, December 27, 2010 7:47:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] GRONT score website
> On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Carl Conrad <cwconrad2 at mac.com> wrote:
>> Granting that the GRONT score may be helpful/useful to those who
>> want to expand their reading skills outside the area of the GNT, it
>> should nevertheless be noted that these numerical scores don't have
>> much objective status, or don't seem to represent more than the opinion
>> of one or a very few readers.
> This is very true!  I should add some text on the site to make it
> clear that these are highly subjective numbers. I have faith in the
> consensus of opinion -- maybe that is misplaced -- so I trust that as
> more contributors contribute contributions to the database, the scores
> will be more meaningful.  If not then I can rest confidently in the
> fact that I'm adding more noise to the WWW. :-)
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