[B-Greek] Fwd: Romans 16:1

Terry Cook cookie99 at fuse.net
Tue Dec 21 16:38:49 EST 2010

I've been waiting for further input but seeing none forthcoming let me prove 
my lack of knowledge before the whole world- the example from LSJ, as far as 
I can tell does not once use a fem article with a masc noun.
It is my understanding that the article tells us what the gender of its noun 
is. So, the article and its noun are ALWAYS the same gender.
What don't I understand in this conversation?
Terry Cook

From: "nikolaos kadamou" <ntgreekreader at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 9:05 PM
To: "Daniel Streett" <danstreett at gmail.com>
Cc: "Biblical Greek Mailing List" <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Fwd: Romans 16:1

> see
> μήτε θήλεια θεός
> On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Daniel Streett <danstreett at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>> Actually, LSJ gives numerous references where θεός (QEOS) is used with 
>> the
>> fem. article, often to refer to Athena:
>> θεός fem., goddess, μήτε θήλεια θεός, μήτε τις ἄρσην Il.8.7, cf. 
>> Hdt.2.35,
>> al.; τοῖς θεοῖς εὔχομαι πᾶσι καὶ πάσαις D.18.1, cf. 141, Orac.ib.21.52; 
>> esp.
>> at Athens, of Athena, Decr. ap. And.1.77, Pl.Ti.21a, etc.; ἁ Διὸς θεός,
>> Ζηνὸς ἡ θ., S.Aj.401 (lyr.), 952 (ἡ Διὸς θεά ib.450); of other goddesses,
>> ποντία θεός Pi.I. 8(7).36; ἡ νερτέρα θ.,= Περσεφόνη, S.OC1548, etc.; of
>> Thetis, Pl. Ap.28c; of Niobe, S.El.150 (lyr.), Ant.834 (anap.): in dual, 
>> of
>> Demeter and Persephone, τὰ τοῖν θεοῖν ψηφίσματα Ar.V.378 (lyr.); οὐδ' 
>> ἔδεισε
>> τὼ θεώ And.1.125; freq. in oaths, νὴ τὼ θεώ Ar.Lys.112; μὰ τὼ θεώ
>> Id.Ec.155,532.
>> Daniel R. Streett
>> Asst. Prof. of Greek and NT
>> Criswell College, Dallas, TX
>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 7:53 PM, nikolaos kadamou 
>> <ntgreekreader at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Mark, Θεὸς/θεὰ
>>> in everything else you are right
>>> On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Mark Lightman <lightmanmark at yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > <Certain nouns in Greek are "epicene" (or "common") in that their form
>>> > is the same for both masculine and feminine but their gender depends
>>> > on whom the noun is referring to.  DIAKONOS (aide) is one of them.
>>> > PARQENOS (virgin) is another.>
>>> >
>>> > θεος (QEOS) is another one.  Even ανθρωπος (ANQRWPOS.)
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