[B-Greek] Matthew 22:34

Michael Baber illuminatiaries at yahoo.com
Sun Dec 12 01:20:04 EST 2010


Yes, you could even say his opinion is "brilliant." *snort, snort*

--- On Sat, 12/11/10, Oun Kwon <kwonbbl at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Oun Kwon <kwonbbl at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Matthew 22:34
To: "Biblical Greek'" <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 4:07 PM


I wonder why I should buy an opinion of BDAG rather than FWSFOROS (his
is more enlightening)?   Isn't it enough to see the text just say
'When they gather together'? What does the idiomatic phrase in a
locative sense says more than what the text says?

In this particular example in 1Co 7:5, many English translations
actually omit it, while a few seems take it as 'purpose' when
paraphrasing (as in NET '.... resume your relationship').

Oun Kwon.

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Carl Conrad <cwconrad2 at mac.com> wrote:
>
> On Dec 9, 2010, at 11:32 AM, Mark Lightman wrote:
>
> > <No, I don't think the notion of purpose would be expressed with EPI +
> > accusative. I think that Iver is right and the lexicographical
> > evidence is sufficiently convincing.>
> >
> > Hi, Carl,
> >
> > You guys are probably right, but cf. 1 Cor 7:5, where there seems to be a hint
> > of purpose.  That is the picture I have in my mind, the completion of a delayed
> > event that is at least as telic as it is locative.
>
> I think not. I think that BDAG has it right, s.v. EPI
> "       1. marker of location or surface, answering the question ‘where?’ on, upon, near ...
> c. w. acc., answering the question ‘where?’
> β. ἐ. τὸ αὐτό [EPI TO AUTO] at the same place, together ... "
> -- and 1 Cor 7:5 is cited specifically for this sense.
>
> Carl W. Conrad
>
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