[B-Greek] Newbie / Lurker question on Hebrews 11:1 DE as transitional conjunction
apviper at gmail.com
Wed Aug 25 12:05:00 EDT 2010
I'm a lurker, and not at all an expert, but I agree with you for what it's
worth. δε (DE) is simply a transition. Had the author wanted to
communicate "now" in terms of present time, he would've thrown νυν (NUN) in
there somewhere (my guess, anyway).
I do find it strange that every translation I looked at translated it as
"Now..." except the REB and NLT. Everyone seems to follow the KJV. There
might be a more suitable conjunction to link it back to 10:39 (as, for,
etc.). I suppose anything translational choice is subject to
Senior - Computer Science
NC State University
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Kenneth Bent <ken at cotr.com> wrote:
> Hebrews 11:1 εστιν δε πιστις ελπιζομενων υποστασις πραγματων ελεγχος ου
> 1 ESTIN DE PISTIS ELPIZOMENWN UPOSTASIS PRAGMATWN ELEGXOS OU
> 1 ¶ Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do
> not see. (NIV)
> DE is commonly translated “now”.
> I keep running across what seem to be well intentioned but misinformed
> preachers who, because of the word “now” in the translation make some
> application in this manner:
> “Now faith is - It means faith is always “NOW” – in the present.”
> My understanding in reading Wallace is that “de” is a transitional
> conjunction. I haven’t been able to find any reference to DE translated as
> ‘NOW’ as being time referent.
> Of course, ESTIN is present active indicative, but that is not the basis on
> which they derive their application of the verse.
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
> Kenneth Bent
> ken at cotr.com
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