Iver Larsen iver_larsen at sil.org
Tue Aug 24 00:27:49 EDT 2010

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Subject: Re: [B-Greek] A REMOTE ANTECEDENT IN JOHN 12:20-26??

> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Iver Larsen <iver_larsen at sil.org> wrote:
> <clipped>
>> So, the AUTOIS in v. 23 refers to the crowd gathered around him,
>> including the disciples and these Greeks.
>> Jesus is not specifically addressing the Greeks.
>> (And he probably did not speak in Greek to the crowd.)
>> Why does John mention these Greeks (Gentiles)?
>> Possibly because this is the last public speech Jesus gives,
>> and the inclusion of the Greeks' wish to meet Jesus foreshadows
>> that the gospel is to be preached to Greeks, too, so that ALL
>> may believe in Jesus as the Messiah and receive eternal life (20:31).
> <clipped>
>> Iver Larsen
> I might just add Alford's footnote here:
> * *v. 23* Did the Greeks see (i.e. speak with) Jesus, or not?* Certainly *
> not*, if I understand His discourse rightly.

Thanks. Let me add that Alford wrote long before the discipline of discourse 
studies as we know it today was developed.

Iver Larsen 

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