[B-Greek] John 2:15

Leonard Jayawardena leonardj at live.com
Wed Aug 11 07:53:26 EDT 2010

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> 2. After Jesus drives out "all," the sellers of doves, with their
> birds, are still sitting or standing around for him to tell them, "Take
> these things [TAUTA] away," which clearly shows that that the
> antecedent of PANTAS is NOT all the parties mentioned in v. 14. The
> whip was not used on the doves, which would have been kept in cages.
> PERISTERA is feminine but Jesus said TAUTA, not TAUTAS. Perhaps the
> reference is to the cages in which the birds were kept?
> Doug here: If Jesus is driving them out, ALL of them (animals and men),
> then it stands to reason that the One "driving out" is also going "out"
> with ALL of them. He doesn't make a whip with cords only to be
> standing in the temple saying "shoo away." No, He is forcing them all
> out of the temple and he is running behind them outside the temple
> Himself. Of course, the point is that when Jesus said "take these
> things" it doesn't necessarily mean they were inside the temple, and it
> doesn't necessarily mean that He was inside the temple when He said it.
Doug Post

LJ: On second thoughts, I think the series of actions of Jesus relating to the cleansing of the temple should not be taken chronologically and I hereby withdraw my argument no. 2. On both interpretations, adherence to a chronological sequence leads to improbable or even absurd results, as evidenced by your interpretation above. No, I think the events described happened more or less simultaneously and the arrangement of the material by the writer is topical. The actions and the command of Jesus to the sellers of doves in vv. 15-16 correspond to the various items introduced in v. 14 (KAI hEUREN EN TWi hIERWi TOUS PWLOUNTAS BOAS KAI PROBATA KAI PERISTERAS KAI TOUS KERMATISTAS KAQHMENOUS). Observe the pattern below:
1. Jesus drives out the sheep and the oxen.
2. He pours out the coins and overturns the tables of moneychangers.
3. He orders the sellers of doves to take them away. 
Evidently, Jesus' actions were directed towards clearing the temple of the merchandise that desecrated it (and, of course, the sellers would have followed their merchandise out). If he drove the sellers and the moneychangers out of the temple, wouldn't (1) above be the odd man out?
Leonard Jayawardena

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