[B-Greek] APO MEROUS in Romans 11:25

Adrian bgreek at global4.freeserve.co.uk
Fri Oct 30 08:11:25 EDT 2009


Thanks very much for your responses.  I had looked it up in BDAG, 
and it refers to 'for a while' in Ro15:24, but without any 
justification or detailed comment.  I really appreciate the 
clarification you have given here.

Kind regards

Adrian Clark

On Fri Oct 30 06:54:50 CDT 2009, Yancy W Smith 
<yancywsmith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Vasileios is right. ??? ???? ?????? ??? ??????  ???????? EAN 
> hHUMWN PRWTON APO MEROUS EMPLHSQW does, however,  contain one 
> temporal adverb, PRWTON.   APO MEROUS reativizes the sense  of 
> complete enjoyment in the verb EMPLHSQW. I don't see any temporal 
>  sense, rather one of degree.
> 
> Yancy Smith
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 30, 2009, at 1:37 AM, Vasileios Tsialas 
> <tsialas78 at hotmail.com>  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I think that the expression "for a while" in Ro 15:24 is just a 
>> way  to render the original expression "to enjoy your company in 
>> part  (that is, not fully, but to some degree)".
>> Vasileios Tsialas,
>> Athens, Greece
>> 
>>> From: iver_larsen at sil.org
>>> To: bgreek at global4.freeserve.co.uk; b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>>> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:58:22 +0300
>>> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] APO MEROUS in Romans 11:25
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <bgreek at global4.freeserve.co.uk>
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>>> Sent: 29. oktober 2009 21:57
>>> Subject: [B-Greek] APO MEROUS in Romans 11:25
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>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Is 'for a while' an acceptable translation of APO MEROUS in 
>>>> Romans  11:25?
>>>> 
>>>> i.e. "Israel has experienced a hardening for a while until the 
>>>>  full number of
>>>> Gentiles has come in"
>>>> 
>>>> all the translations I have render it '....a hardening in part'.
>>>> I was not sure why whether there is a reason it doesn't seem 
>>>> to be
>>>> translated 'for a while', given that it is in some other places
>>>> (e.g. Romans 15:24).
>>>> 
>>>> Many thanks
>>>> 
>>>> Adrian Clark
>>> 
>>> Thanks. You have inadvertently pointed to a problematic 
>>> handling of  APO MEROUS
>>> in Rom 15:24, that I was not aware of.
>>> 
>>> Iver Larsen
> 
> Yancy Smith, PhD
> World Bible Translation Center
> Fort Worth, TX
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