[B-Greek] Mark 7:18-19
leonardj at live.com
Fri Oct 30 05:27:34 EDT 2009
18 KAI LEGEI AUTOIS, hOUTWS KAI hUMEIS ASUNETOI ESTE; OU NOEITE hOTI PAN TO EKSWQEN EISPOREUOMENON EIS TON ANQRWPON OU DUNATAI AUTON KOINWSAI
19 hOTI OUK EISPOREUETAI AUTOU EIS THN KARDIAN ALL' EIS THN KOILIAN, KAI EIS TON AFEDRWNA EKPOREUETAI, KAQARIZWN PANTA TA BRWMATA;
Nicholaos Adamou wrote:
The participle Καθαρίζων or Καθαρίζον is determined by its subject.The subject is the phrase “πᾶν τὸ ἔξωθεν εἰσπορευόμενον” and it is neuter not masculine, thus, the participle is in agreement with it and it is also neuter, as Καθαρίζον.
LJ: The phrase PAN TO EKSWQEN EISPOREUOMENON may be in grammatical concord with KAQARIZON and provide a grammatical subject for it but how does one make sense out of "whatever goes in from the outside" purifies all foods? Even with PAN TO EKSWQEN EISPOREUOMENON EIS TON ANQRWPON, what does "whatever goes into the man from outside" purifies all foods mean? To make ANY sort of sense, one has to construe KAQARIZON with all the words from PAN to EKPOREUETAI, in which case the subject or antecedent of the participle is not some or even all of these words but the whole THOUGHT expressed by them. That is why I asked whether the biological process referred to by the words from PAN to EKPOREUETAI was the intended subject (or antecedent) of the participle KAQARIZON.
Even the last-mentioned is frought with some difficulties:
1. First, what does it mean to say that food is purified by going into the stomach and then passing out into the latrine? Is Jesus making some kind of a scientific proposition here? While some germs or poisons entering the body with food are neutralized in the stomach, some are not and can cause disease or bodily disorder. Eating with unwashed hands can increase the likelihood of this happening--That is why 15 October 2008 was the "Global Handwashing Day"!
2. Second, there is no evidence that the Jewish relgious leaders' concern was personal hygiene (cf. Mark 7:5). Rather, it was the ritual impurity of Jesus' disciples' hands that they objected to. By KOINAIS CERSIN, they meant common or ceremonically unclean hands. So even if Jesus' "scientific proposition" was correct, it would still be irrelevant to the issue at hand. Or did Jesus mean that ritual impurity of hands contracted by the food consumed was removed by the biological process of elimination? If so, that is indeed a new teaching!
I think that exegetical considerations point to KAQARIZWN as having stood in the autograph. My original question, however, was prompted by a desire to know what exactly might be the indended subject or antecedent of KAQARIZON--whether a certain phrase, all of the words from PAN to EXPOREUETAI or the whole thought or idea expressed by those words.
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