[B-Greek] Luke 12:49-50

George F Somsel gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Fri Oct 23 12:19:18 EDT 2009


Who is being baptized is simple.  This is a passive inf so it is the speaker, Jesus, who MUST undergo this baptism.  Who is doing the baptism is not stated.  It could be God who brings it about or the Roman government or the religious leaders.  It establishes, however, a sequence by implication due to the contrast expressed (δὲ DE):  First Jesus must undergo his baptism after which (at some unstated time) he will "cast fire on the earth" (judgment).  He desires that his baptism were already completed.
 george
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From: Samuel Cripps <crippssamuel at yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Luke 12:49-50

My apologies.  Let me try again.
 
Please take a look at Luke 12:49-50
 
πυρ ηλθον βαλειν επι την γην και τι θελω ει ηδη ανηφθηβαπτισμα δε εχω βαπτισθηναι και πως συνεχομαι εως οτου τελεσθη
 
I have three questions:
 
1. Who is doing the baptizing?
2. Who is being baptized?
3. Do these two verses cons titute a Hebraism, i.e., a synonymous parallelism? 
 
Thanks,
 
Sam Cripps (layman)


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From: Samuel Cripps <crippssamuel at yahoo.com>
Subject: [B-Greek] Luke 12:49-50
To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 3:24 PM





B-Greekers,Please take a look at Luke 12:49-50πυρ ηλθον βαλειν επι την γην και τι θελω ει ηδη ανηφθηβαπτισμα δε εχω βαπτισθηναι και πως συνεχομαι εως οτου τελεσθηI have three questions:1.    Who is doing the baptizing?2.    Who is being baptized?3.    Do these two verses constitute a Hebraism, i.e., a synonymous parallelism? 
 
Thanks,
 
Sam Cripps (layman)

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