[B-Greek] prin abraam genesthai... John 8:58
George F Somsel
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Sun Oct 4 19:06:40 EDT 2009
29ἀποκριθεὶς δὲ ὁ Ἰησοῦς εἶπεν αὐτοῖς·πλανᾶσθε μὴ εἰδότες τὰς γραφὰς μηδὲ τὴν δύναμιν τοῦ θεοῦ·30ἐν γὰρ τῇ ἀναστάσει οὔτε γαμοῦσιν οὔτε γαμίζονται, ἀλλʼ ὡς ἄγγελοι ἐν τῷ οὐρανῷ εἰσιν.31περὶ δὲ τῆς ἀναστάσεως τῶν νεκρῶν οὐκ ἀνέγνωτε τὸ ῥηθὲν ὑμῖν ὑπὸ τοῦ θεοῦ λέγοντος·32ἐγώ εἰμιὁ θεὸς Ἀβραὰμ καὶ ὁ θεὸς Ἰσαὰκ καὶ ὁ θεὸς Ἰακώβ;οὐκ ἔστιν [ὁ]θεὸς νεκρῶν ἀλλὰ ζώντων.
29 APOKRIQEIS DE hO IHSOUS EIPEN AUTOIS, "PLANASQE MH EIDOTES TAS GRAFAS MHDE THN DUNAMIN TOU QEOU
30 EN GAR THi ANASTASEI OUTE GAMOUSIN OUTE GAMIZONTAI, ALL' hWS AGGELOI EN TWi OURANWi EISIN.
31 PERI DE THS ANASTASEWS TWN NEKRWN OUK ANEGNWTE TO hRHQEN hUMIN hUPO TOU QEOU LEGOTOS,
32 "EGW EIMI hO QEOS ABRAHAM KAI hO QEOS ISAAK KAI hO QEOS IAKWB; OUK ESTIN [hO] QEOS NEKRWN ALLA ZWNTWN."
… search for truth, hear truth,
learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
defend the truth till death.
- Jan Hus
From: Eddie Mishoe <edmishoe at yahoo.com>
To: Roy Enal <yarwon at hotmail.com>; b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org; George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2009 3:51:29 PM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] prin abraam genesthai... John 8:58
The Ex 3.14 passage does not refer to God as EGW EIMI. Although the words EGW EIMI appear in this passage, as you can see, it is not a reference to God...
EIPEN hO QEOS PROS MWUSHN EGW EIMI hO WN, KAI EIPEN OUTWS EREIS TOIS hUIOUS ISRAHLhO WN APESTALKE ME...
What this text is saying is "I am, "The One who is." God instructs Moses to tell the Israelites that he was sent by "The One who is," not EGW EIMI. This Exodus passage is not the OT antecedent of EGW EIMI in the NT in the sense you are suggesting.
The EGW EIMI passages that are used to refer to God are rather in Isaiah. See for examples Isa 41.4, 43.25, etc.
Hope this helps.
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