[B-Greek] NT Greek Scholars in Greece?

Leonard Isaksson leonardo1orchardcity at mac.com
Thu Oct 1 08:39:35 EDT 2009


Thank you for the information in this post.

Leonard Isaksson

On Oct 1, 2009, at 12:31 AM, Nikolaos Adamou wrote:

>
> Of course there is literate production of biblical studies in Greece
> by Greek scholars.  One has to have in mind that the size of
> population is much smaller, but that does not mean anything.  But
> there are special cases.  One peculiarity is the function of the
> public university in Greece.  Vassilios is right up to the point.  But
> I do not think that this is the problem, and his point does not allow
> one to see the main issue.
>
> Greek scholars write in Greek and publish in small publishing houses
> for mostly the Greek/Orthodox audience.  Some have problems in English
> communication, some prefer German communication.  But mostly the
> communication is in Greek.  Few from those that produce in Greece
> produce for the academic community at large and particular for the non
> Greeks for several historical reasons.  They produce for the Orthodox
> Greek community.  They also use a text that is not the generally
> accepted text in the west as the NA27 and UBS4.  There are exceptions,
> like Karavidopoulos and other professors who favor the western text,
> were substantially criticized on this matter.
>
> Every summer I go to Greece I find new work produce, and some of it of
> significant value.
>
> For example the volume by Konstantinos Siamakis on the Alphabet, as
> the language developed in its relationship to the Bible.  Also his
> critical work about the Modern Greek Language translations is very
> interesting.  His brother, fr. Athanasios Siamakis published
> translated to modern Greek with analysis, the Greek musicians of the 2
> – 4 centuries after Christ (Alypios, Kleonidis, Plutarch) and showed
> that this Greek music is indeed the eight tones that is used in
> today’s Greek Orthodox Church, adapted by the Christians from the
> forth to the sixth centuries.  This work is essential for one who has
> interest to study the vocal aspect of the Greek Language.
>
> In the seventies and eighties, the entire MG’s patrology was published
> either in a photographical reprint or in new form with Modern Greek
> translations and extended analytical introductions.  At that time
> significant work was done in the relationship between the Bible and
> the patrology, mostly yet unpublished.  Karavidopoulos used a portion
> of this work, given to him in a photocopied form.  Other professors
> from the Thessaloniki School of Theology also produced significant
> work, like fr. John Romanidis, and not only.
>
> The current Greek Orthodox Archbishop of the United States, Demetrios,
> is such a NT scholar, former professor, who also taught at Harvard as
> a visitor when he was teaching at Holy Cross Seminary, with several
> books, in Greek as well as in English.
>
> Years ago, when in Turkey the Halki Seminary was still active, we also
> had significant work produced.  It was there where in 1904 the first
> orthodox critical NT was produced by professor Antoniadis.
>
> It is this work that was criticized and condemned without looking at
> the manuscripts used in 1933 from J.M.Reif, ‘The Antoniades Greek New
> Testament’ in E.C. Colwelland D.W.Riddles (eds.) Prologomena to the
> Study of Lectionary Text of the Gospels (Chicago).  This work is
> referred, without any further check, by Bart D. Ehrman, The Text of
> the New Testament in Contemporary Research: Essays on the Status ...‎
> - Page 65, 1995 and James Keith Elliott, A bibliography of Greek New
> Testament manuscripts, page 11.
>
> Only just recently, Klaus Wachtel, Early Variants in the Byzantine
> Text of the Gosples, in “Transmission and reception: New Testament
> text critical and exegetical” by Jeff Childers, DC Parker, 2006, pages
> 28-47, evaluates this work, examining the used manuscripts, providing
> an extended table with variances.  Indeed, Klaus Wachtel’s work is
> mostly an English presentation of Andoniadis Greek introduction, and
> verification of his work.
>
> As one can realize there are rooted differences.  Several scholars,
> here in the USA, of NT and classical Greek believe and teach the
> existence of two different languages -  Modern Greek and non Modern,
> Koine, Classical, Homeric.  This creates an obstacle for a working
> communication.  Is Greek a language in continue usage through the
> centuries, or it died and resurrected? (By who and when?)  Does the
> work of Antonius Nicholas Jannaris work “An historical Greek grammar”
> and of Hatzidakis have any academic value?  Or probably their Greek
> identity, does not allow them to have an authentic opinion.
>
> So, thank God, there are non Greeks, like Winer & Moulton or
> Robertson, who in his Greek Grammar said:
>
> 1.  “The modern Greek popular speech does not differ materially from
> the vernacular Byzantine, and thus connects directly with the
> vernacular κοινή.” (p. 44);
>
> 2.  “Knowledge of the modern Greek4 helps the student to escape from
> "the Procrustean bed of the old Greek" which he learned as a fixed and
> dead thing” with footnote.5 “Thumb, Handb. der neugr. Volkspr., 1895,
> p. x.”,(p45);
>
> 3.  “the modern Greek vernacular has more merit than was once conceded
> to it” (p. 46), "Speaking generally, we may say that the Greek of a
> well-written newspaper [the literary language] is now, as a rule, far
> more classical than the Hellenistic of the N. T., but decidedly less
> classical than the Greek of Plutarch." With footnote 2 as “Jebb, On
> the Rela. of Mod. to Class. Gk., in Vincent ands Dickson's Handb. to
> Mod. Gk., 1887, p. 294. Blass actually says: "Der Sprachgebrauch des
> Neuen Testaments, der vielfaltig vom Neugriechischen her eine viel
> bessere Beleuchtung empfangt als aus der alten klassischen Literatur."
> Kuhner's Ausf. Gr. etc., 1890, p. 25. Blass also says (ib., p. 26)
> that "eine wissenschaftliche neugriechische Grammatik fehlt." But
> Hatzidakis and others have written since.” (p. 46) and finally,
>
> 4.  “After all, an educated Greek knew what he meant better than we  
> do.” (p.47).
>
> The Greek & Latin free audio resource of the Bible in
> http://www.greeklatinaudio.com/additional.htm makes the following
> interesting points. There are important not coming from a native
> Greek, as his voice identifies.  “Classical academia is generally not
> concerned with the art of vocal reading of Greek”, “The Bible highly
> recommends (commands!) vocal reading of its contents.”, “Modern Greek
> pronunciation is REAL as opposed to theoretical”, “it SOUNDS far  
> better and far more FLUID than the
> theoretical”, “…never be an issue...unless it's selected from a
> tattered hat as a subject for academic debate. (And the debate, of
> course, will NOT occur in Greek! NOR will it occur in Greece!)”.
> --
> Nikolaos Adamou, Ph.D.
> Associate Professor
> CUNY/BMCC 		 	   		
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