[B-Greek] Rm. 13:3b: "QELEIS..."

Nikolaos Adamou nikolaos.adamou at hotmail.com
Fri May 29 14:01:06 EDT 2009



Tischendorf 8th Ed as well as Greek Orthodox are with a question mark BUT not Westcott/Hort in 
http://www.biblos.com/romans/13-3.htm
The question mark is an interpretation of the text.
Mark is right!





> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 05:25:22 -0700
> From: lightmanmark at yahoo.com
> To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org; AJB1212 at ono.com
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Rm. 13:3b: "QELEIS..."
> 
> You are very observant to notice this.  You're right, all the translations I checked
> construe it as a question, and the Greek texts of  Westcott/Hort, Fodges, and 
> Robinsom/Pierpont punctuate it as a question.  Only NA27/UBS3 has it as
> a statement, followed by Zondervan's RGNT.  NA 27/UBS3 does not even have
> a note.  Even the Modern Greek, though carrying no more evidentiary weight than
> any other translation, construes it as a question: QELEIS ESU NA MH FOBASAI
> THN EXOUSIA;
>  
> Of course, the minority view can be correct.  But QELEIS X? meaning
> X seems to be an established idiom in rhetoric.  Cf. James 2:20
> QELEIS DE GNWMAI Wi ANQRWPE KENE, hOTI H PISTIS
> XWPIS TWN ERGWN ARGH ESTIN?  In both cases I would
> say the sentence is a question more in tone than anything else. 
>  
> Mark L. 
> 
> --- On Fri, 5/29/09, A. J. Birch <AJB1212 at ono.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: A. J. Birch <AJB1212 at ono.com>
> Subject: [B-Greek] Rm. 13:3b: "QELEIS..."
> To: "B-Greek" <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 12:15 AM
> 
> 
> "?? ??? ???????? ??? ????? ????? ?? ????? ???? ???? ?? ????. ?????? ?? ?? ????????? ??? ????????· ?? ?????? ????? ??? ????? ??????? ?? ?????·" (Romans 13:3)
> 
> 
> "hOI GAR ARCONTES OUK EISIN FOBOS TWi AGAQWi ERGWi ALLA TWi KAKWi. QELEIS DE MH FOBEISQAI THN EXOUSIAN· TO AGAQON POIEI, KAI hEXEIS EPAINON EX AUTHS·" (Romans 13:3)
> 
> My question is about the phrase, "QELEIS DE MH FOBEISQAI THN EXOUSIAN·": all the Bible-versions I've consulted treat this phrase as a question, but my Greek text punctuates it as a statement; is there any GRAMMATICAL basis for either of these 'readings'?
> 
> Thankyou,
> 
> Andrew J. Birch
> Palma de Mallorca, Spain
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