[B-Greek] Help with Hebrews 4:2
haines at alastairs.com
Sun May 3 20:16:37 EDT 2009
Thank you Carl,
yes, I hadn't intended "double dative" in a technical sense, I was just
echoing an earlier post that used those words.
I think my spur of the moment proposal, based on the idea that oblique cases
add arguments to predicates, needs work.
I don't think it's unusual for verbs to take extra arguments in the dative
where the sense demands it.
However, is that so here?
As you say, it's a challenging piece of writing.
I appreciate the way you've kept opening doors to getting at its meaning
rather than closing them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Conrad" <cwconrad2 at mac.com>
To: "Alastair Haines" <haines at alastairs.com>
>> ... BUT it brought no profit, that word heard, for those not blending
>> themselves) with trust (and with) the things heard.
>> Double dative because we blend water with wine and with spice and with
> So far as I am aware, the term "double dative" is not used in Greek
> grammar but refers to the very common Latin combination of a dative of
> reference with a dative of purpose, most commonly used with a form of the
> verb "be" (ESSE), as in the oft-cited Ciceronian phrase, "cui bono
> (est)?" "Whose advantage does it serve" -- or more literally, "To whom is
> it for benefit?"
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