[B-Greek] INA + Subjunctive Substantival Clause?
srunge at logos.com
Sat Jun 13 11:41:23 EDT 2009
I was wondering if you had correlated the use of hINA as indicating the attitude of the subject with its function as the target of a cataphoric or forward-point reference from a demonstrative like TOUTO in Phil 1:9. We often use cataphoric references in English to highlight an entire proposition that follows, e.g.:
*Here's* the deal:
*This* is my point:
In such instances, we connect the following proposition using asyndeton in English, not with a complementizer like "that." However, punctuation is used to indicate the connection of the following clause to the forward-pointing reference, using a colon as with my two examples.
In Koine Greek, most targets of the forward-pointing references are marked using either hOTI or hINA. I describe the use of demonstrative and interrogatives for forward-pointing references (aka proleptic or kataphoric usage in Wallace) in an introductory discourse grammar that is about to be released. I had not followed up on the use of hINA versus hOTI. It would be interesting to see how many of the non-purpose uses of hINA fall into this category, marking the subject's attitude.
Chapter 3 covers forward-pointing references, and is part of a sample portion of the grammar that is available for download here (forward-pointing reference):-)
From: b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Margaret Sim
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 4:41 AM
To: Timothy Mitchell; b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] INA + Subjunctive Substantival Clause?
Timothy and Carl,
Thank you Carl for the mention! Timothy you have to look at INA in a new
light: not as introducing a purpose clause, but as indicating the attitude of the subject of the main verb. Of course in about 60% of the occurrences in the NT it may introduce a purpose clause but often it alerts the reader to expect a clause which outlines what the subject wants, prays for or urges someone to do. It seems to me that this is a more transparent and intuitively satifying approach than to slot the clause in as a 'substantival direct object'. In the passage in Philippians it introduces what Paul is praying for: the content if you like of his prayer, but more fundamentally it is introducing speaker/writer attitude. The subjunctive is often used for this in European languages.
In contrast the clause which begins EIS TO DOKIMAZEIN does indicate the goal expected or hoped for. I'll stop there as I do not want to bore you on the subject of this very interesting particle! Incidentally in pagan Greek Epictetus uses it in a very similar manner to the NT writers, and often to introduce an independent clause which cannot then indicate purpose.
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From: "Timothy Mitchell" <taztimmitchell at hotmail.com>
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Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 7:35 AM
Subject: [B-Greek] INA + Subjunctive Substantival Clause?
> If any one could help clear this up for me, that would be great.
> I have been looking at Philippians 1:9-11 a lot recently and have been
> trying to figure out the IVA + Subjunctive clauses. First, here is the
> 9 Καὶ τοῦτο προσεύχομαι, ἵνα ἡ ἀγάπη ὑμῶν ἔτι μᾶλλον καὶ μᾶλλον περισσεύῃ
> ἐν ἐπιγνώσει καὶ πάσῃ αἰσθήσει
> 10 εἰς τὸ δοκιμάζειν ὑμᾶς τὰ διαφέροντα, ἵνα ἦτε εἰλικρινεῖς καὶ
> ἀπρόσκοποι εἰς ἡμέραν Χριστοῦ,
> 11 πεπληρωμένοι καρπὸν δικαιοσύνης τὸν διὰ Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ εἰς δόξαν καὶ
> ἔπαινον θεοῦ.
> 9 KAI TOUTO PROSEUCOMAI IVA H AGAPH UMWN ETI MALLON KAI MALLOV PERISSEUHi
> EV EPIGNWSEI KAI PASHi AISFHSEI
> 10 EIS TO DOKIMAZEIV UMAS TA DIAFERONTA IVA HTE EILIKRIVEIS KAI APROSKOPOI
> EIS HMERAN XRISTOU
> 11 PEPLHRWMEVOI KARPON DIKAISUNHS TON DIA IHSOU XRISTOU EIS DOXAN KAI
> EPAINON QEOU
> I am not confused at the use of TOUTO (τοῦτο) in 1:9, I see it as the
> direct object of the verb PROSEUCOMAI (προσεύχομαι). But I am confused at
> the IVA + Subjunctive PERISSEUHi (περισσεύῃ) in 1:9. I am taking it as a
> substantival direct object of PROSEUCOMAI (προσεύχομαι), am I right on
> Concerning the second IVA + Subjunctive in 1:10, IVA HTE (ἵνα ἦτε), is it
> the "purpose" clause of HTE (ἦτε), or is it also another substantival
> direct object clause of PROSEUCOMAI (προσεύχομαι)?
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