[B-Greek] INA + Subjunctive Substantival Clause?

Carl Conrad cwconrad2 at mac.com
Sat Jun 13 10:40:07 EDT 2009

On Jun 13, 2009, at 8:50 AM, Kevin Riley wrote:

> Mitch
> I think your English is letting you down.  The particle does not  
> have a
> subject, it is the subject - not of the sentence, but of the  
> discussion.

I think there's more than one misunderstanding here. What Margaret  
actually wrote was: "you have to look at INA in a new light: not as  
introducing a purpose clause, but as indicating the attitude of the  
subject of the main verb " What that means in the text under  
discussion, Phil 1:9-11, the hINA clauses indicate the attitude of the  
subject of EUCOMAI, i.e. Paul, the author of the letter.

Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)

> -------Original Message-------
> From: Mitch Larramore
> Date: 13/06/2009 10:31:05 PM
> Margaret:
> You wrote:
> "I'll stop there as I do not want to bore you on the subject of this  
> very
> interesting particle!"
> In what sense do we understand a 'particle' as having a Subject?  
> Since the
> Greek particle is not inflected, I had assumed it could not directly  
> modify
> a Subject. Then again, I could see how the whole clause modifies
> substantives, so am I being too picky, or just revealing my  
> ignorance of the
> English language?
> BTW, I just read Grassmick's (??) diagram of Colossians chapters 1  
> and 2 and
> overwhelmingly the particles (hINA, hOTI) directly modified the  
> finite verb,
> which of course did on occasion not have an expressed Subject but  
> was simply
> embedded in the pronominal ending of the verb. So, again, in this  
> sense I
> can see how it can be said to modify a Subject. One last observation  
> on
> this: I read the last page of this diagram and saw in 4.16 hINA  
> directly
> modifies POIHSATE but also feeds into the suject of the clause hUMEIS
> attached to
> Any help will be greatly appreciated. (I think this is why my time  
> in Greece
> was so hard for me. I just have no intuitive understanding of  
> grammar and
> syntax.

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