[B-Greek] Conversational Greek anyone?

Donald COBB docobb at orange.fr
Fri Jun 5 12:32:04 EDT 2009


Dear Andrew,

I would personally be open to something like that, although I think it would 
also be good to balance it out with simple conversation to encourage 
thinking and expressing oneself in Greek--even if that means that everything 
is not perfect.

One question, though. I believe that the textkit ressources on composition 
deal more specifically with Attic Greek. Are you (or anyone else) familiar 
with something along the same lines for Koinè? BDF has a few pages on word 
order, etc.

Donald Cobb
Aix-en-Provence


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Suttles, Andrew C. (GRC-DSI0)" <andrew.c.suttles at nasa.gov>
To: "B-Greek" <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Conversational Greek anyone?


> Donald,
>
> It may be helpful to have a Greek Study group work through one of the 
> composition grammars available on Textkit.  This might provide an initial 
> cadre of folks who are practiced in composition.
>
> Andrew
> Cleveland, OH
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:b-greek-
>>bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Donald COBB
>>Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 8:56 AM
>>To: B-Greek
>>Subject: [B-Greek] Conversational Greek anyone?
>>
>>Dear B-Greekers,
>>
>>A couple months ago, someone on Β-Greek suggested a discussion group for
>>conversing in Koinè Greek. Paul Baronowsky immediately took up the idea
>>and created a DIALOGOS rubric at greekstudy at nxport.com. A few of us found
>>the idea interesting and signed up. One of the suggestions thrown about
>>was commenting on or summarizing GNT, LXX or other non biblical koinè
>>texts and carrying on conversation from there.
>>
>>I have found this helpful for turning my fairly passive knowledge of Greek
>>into a more active one. Participants of the B-Greek forum have repeatedly
>>insisted on the importance of a varied reading practice as well as
>>speaking conversationally in order to improve one's mastery of the
>>language. Obviously, writing ones thoughts is another important means and
>>the DIALOGOS group is a perfect avenue for that.
>>
>>Τhe venture has had a some trouble getting off the ground, though, mostly
>>for lack of enough people with an intermediate or advanced level actively
>>involved on a regular basis. It seems to me that we would need about a
>>half dozen people or so who could regularly contribute and propose various
>>texts or topics and creatively renew the conversation. That's not a
>>limitive figure, of course: "The more the merrier!"
>>
>>The most important point is not perfection in writing. I almost invariably
>>discover at least a couple dumb mistakes about 20 minutes after sending
>>out a message, which is a good opportunity to kick myself and learn some
>>humility. It's not writing elegantly either; as anyone who has learned a
>>second language knows, one often gets the impression of sounding like a
>>six year old when trying to express oneself--which, in fact, is often
>>true! No, the main thing, as I see it, is rather learning to think in the
>>language and trying to understand other people using it without the luxury
>>of having one eye on a translation!
>>
>>Takers, anyone? If you're interested, you can follow the instructions
>>below. Since there are no archives, you'll have to send out a message in
>>order for others to know that you've signed up. The usual way of
>>corresponding is with unicode.
>>
>>Ἔλπίζω ἵνα ἐν τάχει ἐκ τῶν ἀλλήλων τινα ἀναγνῶμεν.
>>ELPIZW hINA EN TACEI EK TWN ALLHLWN TINA ANAGNWMEN
>>
>>Ἔρρωσθε,
>>ERRWSQE
>>
>>Donald Cobb
>>Aix-en-Provence, France
>>
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>>In order to post messages to greekstudy - and to receive messages posted
>>there - one must subscribe to that email list at:
>>www.quasillum.com/study/greekstudy.php. There is much more information
>>about the list at that site.
>>
>>To communicate with the list:
>>1) subscribe to the greekstudy email list as described above;
>>2) start your SUBJECT line with the word DIALOGOS (DIALOGOS is the
>>group's name);
>>3) write your Greek message either as plaintext, encoded with UTF-8
>>Unicode
>>(preferred), or use the B-Greek transliteration scheme;
>>4) send your message to greekstudy at nxport.com.
>>
>>The word DIALOGOS at the beginning of the SUBJECT line is referred to as
>>the group's tag. Group tags help subscribers sort out messages they want
>>to read from those that don't interest them. They're a handy way to set
>>up filters to remove messages to/from members of groups that don't
>>interest you. (The DELETE key, of course, also works.)
>>
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