[B-Greek] HQELON OUN LABEIN AUTON EIS TO PLOION Jn 6:21

Elizabeth Kline kline_dekooning at earthlink.net
Sat May 31 16:00:05 EDT 2008


On May 31, 2008, at 2:36 AM, Iver Larsen wrote:

>>
>>
>> Perhaps. It might be misguided to try and eradicate all notions of
>> wishing and desire from QELW in this passage. Certainly they were  
>> glad
>> to see him. They were in need of help and he had helped them before.
>> Yes I can see your point.
>>
>> The idea that QELW [EQELW] implies that the wish went unfulfilled  
>> is a
>> separate issue.
>
> My guess it that this suggestion is based again on exegeting a  
> literal English translation of HQELON
> as "wanted". I am happy/willing to accept the sense of acceptance in  
> this context in contrast to
> their former fear. John seems to want to emphasize that once you  
> meet or recognize Jesus, fear is
> replaced by happiness. Several English translations render this as  
> something like "so (now) they
> were happy to take him on board", implying that they consequently  
> did so, as is also explained in
> the parallel passages.


Iver,

Actually, I don't think this is the case. Alford's complaint  
concerning the idea that QELW [EQELW] implies a wish that is  
unfulfilled is aimed against an unspecified group of German scholars.

thank you,

Elizabeth Kline







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