[B-Greek] hWS AN construction in the LXX

Albert Pietersma albert.pietersma at sympatico.ca
Mon Oct 8 22:52:32 EDT 2007


To be sure, there are several features of translation Greek in the  
verse. However, the hWS AN + subjunctive construction is not one of  
them, as I see it.
Al
On Oct 8, 2007, at 10:45 PM, Bryant J. Williams III wrote:

> Dear Albert,
>
> It appears that KAI ESTAI hWS AN... is translating WeHAYAH )iM- 
> SHAMWa( , so that
> what we are seeing is translation Greek. Is that your take? or ?
>
> Rev. Bryant J. Williams III
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Albert Pietersma" <albert.pietersma at sympatico.ca>
> To: "Ian Scott" <iscott at tyndale.ca>
> Cc: <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 7:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] hWS AN construction in the LXX
>
>
> Actually, what you cite is the Rahlfs edition, not Wevers more
> critical text. In Wevers text we have KAI ESTAI EAN AKOH EISAKOUSHS
> THS FWNHS ktl. Thus it lacks the reference to the crossing of the
> Jordan and the giving of the land.
>   As for the  hWS AN constructionto me it makes good sense. That is
> to say the crossing of the Jordan ktl. is cast as a projection.
> Therefore the event is yet to take place. Presumably it will but
> hasn't as yet.
> One might thus translate Rahlfs' text: "And it shall be, should you
> (pl) cross the Jordan into the land  that the Lord your God is giving
> you (pl)if by hearing you (pl) listen to the voice of the Lord your
> (pl) God, to keep and to do all the commandments, which I command you
> (sg) today, the Lord will also render you (sg) high above all the
> nations of the earth and all these blessings will come upon you (sg)
> and will find you (sg)if by hearing you (sg) hear the voice of the
> Lord your (sg) God."
> A rather verbose sentence, to be sure, but such is the Greek.
> Al
>
> On Oct 8, 2007, at 1:14 PM, Ian Scott wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm working on some LXX translation with some students and came
>> across an odd use of the expression hWS AN in Deut 28:1. It appears
>> in a subordinate clause: KAI ESTAI hWS AN DIABHTE TON IORDANHN EIS
>> THN GHN . . .  The context is that Moses is outlining what will
>> happen when the people enter Canaan if they keep the commandments.
>> I would normally want to take hWS AN here in a conditional sense
>> ("if you cross . . ."), but that doesn't seem to fit the sense
>> here. The sense seems to demand that hWS AN mean "when" without
>> much "unreality" attaching either to the AN or the subjunctive. But
>> I haven't found any options in the lexica which would validate such
>> a use of hWS AN. Any suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> Ian W. Scott, Ph.D. (McMaster)
>> Assistant Professor of New Testament
>> Tyndale Seminary
>> Toronto, Canada
>> email: iscott at tyndale.ca
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