[B-Greek] OUCI MENON SOI EMENEN, Acts 5:4--A Hebraism?

Carl W. Conrad cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Tue Jul 31 06:45:56 EDT 2007


On Jul 30, 2007, at 4:41 PM, Webb wrote:

> Sorry, list members--the question below was not well expressed. Let  
> me try
> again.
>
> Translators assume that the participle MENON in Acts 5:4 means  
> "while it
> remained unsold", so that the phrase OUCI MENON SOI EMENEN means,  
> "Did it
> not remain yours (OUCI...SOI EMENEN), while it remained (MENON)  
> [unsold]"?
> I'm asking whether it is possible that OUCI MENON SOI EMENEN is a
> literalistic rendering of a Hebrew original that had the emphatic  
> infinitive
> absolute + finite verb form. For example, Judges 4:9 has Deborah  
> saying to
> Barak, "I will surely go". In Hebrew that is HLK 'LK, infinitive  
> absolute +
> finite verb. The LXX renders it, POREUOMENH POREUSOMAI--participle  
> + finite
> verb. Is it possible that the same pattern is to be seen here in  
> Acts 5:4,
> with MENON + EMENEN?

I really don't think so. You're thinking of the ways that LXX Greek  
represents the Hebrew infinitive absolute, I think. I rather think  
that the participles here (MENON and PRAQEN) do function more as  
circumstantial: "While it remained (unsold), wouldn't it remain  
yours? And when it had been sold, wasn't (its value) at your disposal?"

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> Subject: [B-Greek] OUCI MENON SOI EMENEN, Acts 5:4--A Hebraism?
>
> OUCI MENON SOI EMENEN, KAI PRAQEN EN THi SHi EXOUSIAi hUPHRCEN?  
> (Acts 5:4a)
>
>
>
> All translations I've looked at assume that OUCI MENON means "while it
> remained [unsold]". But as little Hebrew as I know, this looks to  
> me like it
> could be a literalistic translation of an emphatic statement in  
> Hebrew, with
> the force, "Wasn't it entirely yours?"
>
> Can some of the Hebrew and Greek (and Greek translation from Hebrew)
> specialists on the list comment on whether this idea has any  
> plausibility?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Webb Mealy
>
>
>
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Carl W. Conrad
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