[B-Greek] Dear Sirs (was Re: i John 4:8 and 16

Ann Nyland nyland at tsn.cc
Fri Jul 27 18:28:35 EDT 2007

Lately B-Greek seems to have increasing posts addressed to "Sirs". Perhaps 
it should be noted that there are women on this list too. Surely even Grudem 
himself would not argue that "Sirs" is an inclusive term. I do believe women 
have been allowed in schools in recent years.
Ann Nyland

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Reimer" <Jerry at lsm.org>
To: <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 4:09 AM
Subject: [B-Greek] i John 4:8 and 16

> Dear Sirs,
> Concerning the statements in 1 John 4:8 and 16 (o theos agape estin) and 
> the statement in John 1:1:
> Should the anarthrous construction (of these anarthrous predicate nouns) 
> be noted for adjectival meaning? In other words, should 1 John 4:8, 16 be 
> considered similar to 1 John 1:5 (o theos phos estin) and John 1:1 (theos 
> een o logos) not just in construction but in meaning? For example, is it 
> accurate to say that these predicate nouns are not giving ontological 
> meanings, per se, but descriptive suggestions such as: God has a loving 
> nature, is benevolent (1 John 4:8,16); God is bright, shining (1 John 1:5) 
> and the word was divine, had godness, was godish (John 1:1)?
> I have long had the assumption that anarthrousness (is that a word?) 
> usually leans over onto the qualitative side of things wherever it is 
> found. If this is generally true, and is true in these verses, is it then 
> correct to say that we do not have intended ontological statements as to 
> essence in these places but that we have adjectival modification and 
> therefore further information about the subject?
> Jerry Reimer
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