[B-Greek] He vs. It

George F Somsel gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Wed Jul 18 12:24:04 EDT 2007


Indeed it is an odd sentence.  Carl has been critical of some grammars for precisely these made-up sentences, and I would say this is a prime example of the problem with them.
 
george
gfsomsel
 
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----- Original Message ----
From: Jonathan Robie <jwrobie at mindspring.com>
To: frjsilver at optonline.net
Cc: Seth <sethvm at gmail.com>; b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:01:42 AM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] He vs. It


>> Workbook Text:
>> EGO POIW TO ERGOU TOU AGGELOU AUTOS DE EXEI THN DOXAN TOU QEOU.
>>
>> Workbook Suggested Translation:
>> I do the work of the angel, and *he* [editing mine] has the 
>> glory of God.
>>     

Is this Machen?

Bigger Greeks than I may want to comment on whether the Greek feels odd. 
In this rather odd sentence, and whether my response is correct.

I can't see anything other than context and meaning to tell me for sure 
whether AUTOS refers to the works or to the angel, but I don't know what 
it would mean for the work of the angel to have the glory of God. That 
said, I'm not sure what the point of the sentence is anyway, the DE 
implies a contrast between the angel and me, perhaps that the angel is 
the one who has the Glory of God, and I just do his grunt work, without 
making any claim to that glory. It would be an odd sentence to find in 
the New Testament, where this kind of relationship between angels and 
people doesn't seem to occur.

Jonathan
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