frjsilver at optonline.net frjsilver at optonline.net
Mon Jul 16 10:17:03 EDT 2007

Dear Friends --

My first instinct is to render this as 'grind, chew, masticate', but I notice that the canonical Greek 70 replaces KOPANIZON with LEPTUNON, pretty clearly 'dissolve, digest'.

The monster is apparently not a dainty eater, but the 70's image feels to me fairly disgusting here:   the other beasts eat the EPILOIPA which fall to the monster's feet, but in apposition to LEPTUNON this could well be a reference to excrement rather than just the slop and crumbs falling from its mouth.

Peace and blessings to all.

Father James Silver

Monk James
Orthodox Church in America

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl W. Conrad" 
Date: Monday, July 16, 2007 9:44 am
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] KOPANIZON
To: Litteral John 
Cc: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org

> On Jul 16, 2007, at 9:13 AM, Litteral John wrote:
> > I have run onto a word that I am unsure about. It is found in 
> Daniel> 7:7 of the Old Greek LXX, not Theodotian. Here is some 
> of the passage
> > to put it into context. My translation would roughly be, 
> > "surpassing in
> > strength. It had great iron teeth, eating and ????" Would it 
> best be
> > translated "pounding" or "thrashing?" Thanks! John Litteral
> > John.Litteral at ashland.kyschools.us
> >
> > uperferwn iscui econ odontaV sidhrouV megalouV esqion kai kopanizon
> John, please don't try to scissors-and paste a Greek text into a 
> message unless you are sure that it is in Unicode (UTF-8) plain-
> text. 
> And even if you do put it into you message as Unicode Greek, you 
> must 
> follow the B-Greek protocol and use the regular B-Greek 
> transliteration scheme that is explained within the BG-FAQ page 
> at 
> http://ibiblio.org/bgreek/bgtransliteration.html
> The phrase you're concerned with is evidently κοπανίζον
> KOPANIZON; LEH offers "grind, pound" as a sense for KOPANIZW; it 
> looks like this is an extended form of KOPTW (root KOP) meaning 
> "hit," "pound," "chop."
> Carl W. Conrad
> Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
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