[B-Greek] Dative participial clauses

Elizabeth Kline kline_dekooning at earthlink.net
Wed Jul 4 19:15:39 EDT 2007


Carl Wrote

> ... you seemed to be arguing that the dative participles
> and nominals  of those clauses were independent syntactically from
> the main clause; my observation that they more likely ARE linked
> syntactically with main-clause verbs taking dative complements was
> intended to counter that claim of syntactic detachment.


> I really think that this matter deserves a fuller
> investigation beyond the Biblical corpus into Hellenistic prose --
> and I think that such a study ought also to take into account older
> Classical Greek usage as well as Classical Latin prose usage, which
> may very well have influenced those NT writers who had some schooling.

Two samples of pre-verbal dative participles from Thucydides which  
appear to be syntactically independent of the following clause:

Th. 4.120.1-2
	Περὶ δὲ τὰς ἡμέρας ταύτας αἷς  
ἐπήρχοντο Σκιώνη ἐν 2 τῇ Παλλήνῃ  
πόλις ἀπέστη ἀπ’ Ἀθηναίων πρὸς  
Βρασίδαν. 3 φασὶ δὲ οἱ Σκιωναῖοι  
Πελληνῆς μὲν εἶναι ἐκ Πελοποννήσου,  
4 πλέοντας δ’ ἀπὸ Τροίας σφῶν τοὺς  
πρώτους κατενεχθῆναι 5 ἐς τὸ χωρίον  
τοῦτο τῷ χειμῶνι ᾧ ἐχρήσαντο  
Ἀχαιοί, καὶ αὐτοῦ οἰκῆσαι.  
ἀποστᾶσι δ’ αὐτοῖς ὁ Βρασίδας  
διέπλευσε 2 νυκτὸς ἐς τὴν Σκιώνην ...

TH. 4.120.1-2
	PERI DE TAS hHMERAS TAUTAS hAIS EPHRCONTO SKIWNH EN 2 THi PALLHNHi  
POLIS APESTH AP' AQHNAIWN PROS BRASIDAN. 3 FASI DE hOI SKIWNAIOI  
PELLHNHS MEN EINAI EK PELOPONNHSOU, 4 PLEONTAS D' APO TROIAS SFWN  
TOUS PRWTOUS KATENECQHNAI 5 ES TO CWRION TOUTO TWi CEIMWNI hWi  
ECRHSANTO ACAIOI, KAI AUTOU OIKHSAI. APOSTASI D' AUTOIS hO BRASIDAS  
DIEPLEUSE 2 NUKTOS ES THN SKIWNHN ...

Note in Th. 4.120.2
ἀποστᾶσι δ’ αὐτοῖς
APOSTASI D' AUTOIS


Th. 8.24.6
εἰργομένοις οὖν αὐτοῖς τῆς  
θαλάσσης καὶ κατὰ γῆν  
πορθουμένοις ἐνεχείρησάν τινες  
πρὸς Ἀθηναίους ἀγαγεῖν τὴν πόλιν·

Th. 8.24.6
EIRGOMENOIS OUN AUTOIS THS QALASSHS KAI KATA GHN PORQOUMENOIS  
ENECEIRHSAN TINES PROS AQHNAIOUS AGAGEIN THN POLIN:

Here we see two dative participle clauses prior to the main verb.  
EGCEIREW can take a dative argument but in this passage it construes  
with the infinitive AGAGEIN.




Elizabeth Kline







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