[B-Greek] Luke 1.20-21 What did he say?

George F Somsel gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Sun Nov 26 20:27:21 EST 2006


Not only is it conceivable, it's fact.  Sorry about that.
 
george
gfsomsel
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From: Carl W. Conrad <cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu>
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Subject: [B-Greek] Luke 1.20-21 What did he say?

Is it conceivable that you're talking about JOHN 1:20-21?

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gfsomsel at yahoo.com wrote:


>19 KAI hAUTH ESTIN hH MARTURIA TOU IWANNOU hOTI APESTEILAN [PROS AUTON] hOI IOUDAIOI EC hIERROSOUMWN hIEREIS KAI LEUITAS hINA ERWTHSWSIN >AUTON, "SU TIS EI?"
>20 KAI hWMOLOGHSEN KAI OUK HRNHSATO, KAI hWMOLOGHSEN hOTI EGW OUK EIMI hO XRISTOS
>21 KAI HROWTHSAN AUTON, "TI OUN?  SU HLIAS EI?" KAI LEGEI, "OUK EIMI." "hO PROFHTHS EI SU?" KAI APEKRIQH, "OU."
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>Just what is John supposed to be denying here?  He denies being the Messiah, and it would seem that he fairly clearly states that he is not Elijah.  Does he then deny that he >is a prophet at all?  In the question put to him after denying being Elijah he is asked " *** hO PROFHTHS EI SU ** ?"  Are they asking whether he is Elijah again or are they >asking whether he is a prophet at all?  Since the article can be used to reference an item or person already mentioned, are they asking "Are you the [i.e. 'THAT'] prophet?"  >A.T. Robertson in _Word Pictures_ seems to be of the opinion that this refers to the Deutonomic promise in Dt 18.15, and B.F. Westcott seems to be of the same opinion
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>PROFHTHN EK TWN ADELFWN SOU hWS EME ANASTHSEI SOI KURIOS hO QEOS SOU . . .
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>Yet, in his _A Grammar of the Greek New Testament in the Light of Historical Research_, p 762 Robertson states
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>4. Second Mention (Anaphoric). The use of the article with the second mention of a word is very frequent. Thus in Jo. 6:9, ARTOUS KAI OYARIA, but in verse 11 TOUS >ARTOUS—KAI EK TWN OYARIWN. See Lu. 9:13, 16. Cf. hUDWR in Jo. 4:10 and TO hUDWR in verse 11. So MAGOI in Mt. 2:1, but TOUS MAGOUS in verse 7; ZIZANIA in >13:25, but TA ZIZANIA in verse 26. Cf. Ac. 9:4, 7; 9:11, 17; Jas. 2:2, 3; Rev. 15:1, 6. In Jo. 4:43, TAS DUO hMERAS, the article refers to verse 40. Cf. Jo. 20:1 with 19:41; 12:12 >with 12:1; Heb. 5:4 with 5:1; 2 Cor. 5:4 with 5:1. In Ac. 19:13 we have PAULOS, but hO PAULOS in 19:15. Völker (Syntax, p. 21 f.) finds the anaphoric use of the article >common enough in the papyri.
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>Robertson, A. (1919; 2006). A Grammar of the Greek New Testament in the Light of Historical Research (762). Logos.
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>george
>gfsomsel
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