[B-Greek] A Question on 1 Timothy 2:6 and the meaning of, ANTILUTRON ?

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Mon Nov 6 22:00:48 EST 2006


Those phrases are distinctions without a difference, no?

Father James Silver

----- Original Message -----
From: Webb 
Date: Monday, November 6, 2006 9:57 pm
Subject: RE: RE: [B-Greek] A Question on 1 Timothy 2:6 and the meaning of,ANTILUTRON ?
To: frjsilver at optonline.net
Cc: wayfaringman at netzero.net, b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org

> DOUNAI THN YUCHN AUTOU LUTRON ANTI POLLWN (Matt. 20:28 and Mk 
> 10:45) 
> 
> more or less exactly parallels
> 
> DOUS hEAUTON ANTILUTRON hUPER PANTWN (1 Tim. 2:6)
> 
> ANTI doesn't mean "instead of": it means "in exchange for". Am I 
> missingsomething obvious here?
> 
> Webb Mealy
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> From: frjsilver at optonline.net [mailto:frjsilver at optonline.net] 
> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 6:45 PM
> To: Webb
> Cc: wayfaringman at netzero.net; b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: RE: [B-Greek] A Question on 1 Timothy 2:6 and the meaning
> of,ANTILUTRON ?
> 
> Instead of what, then? How else to explain ANTI?
> 
> Father James silver
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Webb 
> Date: Monday, November 6, 2006 9:32 pm
> Subject: RE: [B-Greek] A Question on 1 Timothy 2:6 and the meaning
> of,ANTILUTRON ?
> To: frjsilver at optonline.net, wayfaringman at netzero.net
> Cc: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> 
> > I suspect that the writer of 1 Timothy knew Jesus' words that 
> we have
> > recorded in Matt. 20:28 and Mk 10:45. Notice that in the 
> Lord's 
> > saying, the
> > expression DOUNAI THN YUCHN AUTOU LUTRON ANTI POLLWN means to 
> > give his life
> > in exchange for many, that is, in exchange for many people's 
> > lives. "Instead
> > of money"? I can't see any reason to go in that direction.
> > 
> > Webb Mealy
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > [mailto:b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of
> > frjsilver at optonline.net
> > Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 6:14 PM
> > To: wayfaringman at netzero.net
> > Cc: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> > Subject: Re: [B-Greek] A Question on 1 Timothy 2:6 and the meaning
> > of,ANTILUTRON ?
> > 
> > Dear Friends --
> > 
> > This isn't all that complicated a word.
> > 
> > In this citation, it means merely that -- instead of (ANTI) a 
> (usually> monetary) ransom payment -- Jesus Christ gave Himself 
> for all. 
> > 
> > Peace and blessings to all.
> > 
> > Father James Silver
> > 
> > Monk James
> > Orthodox Church in America
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "wayfaringman at netzero.net" 
> > Date: Monday, November 6, 2006 1:00 pm
> > Subject: [B-Greek] A Question on 1 Timothy 2:6 and the meaning of,
> > ANTILUTRON ?
> > To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> > 
> > > Greetings to All !
> > > 
> > > In 1 Timothy 2:6 we have the following verse in the Greek 
> New 
> > > Testament, 
> > > " hO DOUS EAUTON ANTILUTRON hUPER PANTWN, TO MARTURION 
> KAIROIS 
> > > IDIOIS." 
> > > 
> > > My question is, does ANTILUTRON have the meaning of 
> > > "corresponding 
> > > ransom" ? 
> > > 
> > > Any help on this will be most appreciated. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Best Regards,
> > > 
> > > Harry Jones
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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